Comment on OpenAI, Microsoft hit with new author copyright lawsuit over AI training
burliman@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Remember that if language models or other AI are responsible for paying ongoing licensing for books they read to train themselves, it’s a small step away for people going to universities being responsible for the same when they start making money in their careers. In both scenarios the books were legally purchased for training. They don’t care about the scale argument, they care about the money argument. If they win and set a precedence here, be ready for high paying careers from those learnings be the next target. It’s not a false equivalence, it is how this stuff eventually goes. They want a subscription world. Remember that.
This is fearmongering bullshit that incorrectly equates machine learning with human intelligence and is totally ignorant of the law.
I get it, you want to use AI. Don't worry, it'll stick around.
But the free ride of big companies owned by millionaires and billionaires helping themselves to every piece of data and knowledge that happens to be on the internet somewhere is going to end. Every bubble bursts eventually, and hopefully AI comes out better in the end.
Never said the intelligences were the same, only that the use of the data is the same. Whether one AI company trawls the internet for public data or millions of users each trawl a little bit of the internet, they don’t care. They just recognize a nice deep pocket to go after for another income stream.
Non fiction and academic publishers have been gouging students and academics for years. They don’t deserve your sympathy.
Fuck yeah you get it
They are asking Microsoft and Open AI to pay a subscription?
You mean that they can later equate “subscription for using this model trained with my book” to “subscription for using your brain trained with my book”?
Yep it’s capitalism. Imagine books been sold by the chapter (Im sorry I mean rented by the page) it sick and totally bullshit, but this is end stage capitalism.
Capitalism can’t go on forever it got a bubble and we are close to it busting.
So these lawsuits are bullshit and should be overturned.
Except, at least for the time being, humans have legal rights and protections. Software has none.
dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
People != ML models
People generate novel ideas from what they ingest. ML model parrot out a word salad. Don’t slippery slope Tech’s encroachment on creative space.
donuts@kbin.social 11 months ago
What's more, people have agency that allows them to seek new information on their own and they form subjective opinions.
As human beings we also spend every moment of our lives taking in all kinds of various sensory information that informs our eventual character and mind (and that's to say nothing of our individual mental/neurological nature). We also have an imperfect and complex ability to retain information.
When a human being expresses a thought they are expressing it based on a lifetime of broad experiences that are unique to their specific circumstances. Similarly, when a human being paints a painting of a tree they are doing it not based purely on some library of other people's art, but also based on their own lifetime of experience.
People who equate "artificial intelligence" with human intelligence and lived experience are completely off base.