Comment on US accused of sending fake Roman mosaics back to Lebanon

• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It was a loaded headline meant to trick people into clicking. If you just read the headline you’d think the United States government was stealing artifacts, forging them, and sending the forgeries back or something. Which has like nothing in common with the actual story in the article. Always pretty easy in the comments to tell who actually read the article and who made up an imaginary article in their head based on the headline.

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  • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know titles are fake as shit. I read the post summary and the autotldr summary both didn’t contain anything explaining about any of what you said. Both actually renforce the idea that the antiques where sent as knowingly as fake.

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    • jadero@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I sympathize. I’ve been caught out a couple of times by depending on autotldr as a substitute for reading the actual article. My own casual comparisons between autotldr and source articles suggest that autotldr is probably about 80% faithful to its source, on average.

      I don’t know if it’s real or in my own mind, but it also seems to me that autotldr is faithful to the article inversely proportional to the quality of its source material. That is, the better and more complete the article, the more likely it is that autotldr trashes it.

      Now that I’ve written it down, it strikes me that that may be an insurmountable problem. If we think of good articles as being “high information” and garbage articles as “low information”, summarizing will always be more likely to cause important “damage” the higher the information content. Thus, hitting 95% on a good article might trash it, while hitting 60% on a trash article is just fine. This might be especially true if you consider that the best articles might already be as compact as is reasonable.

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      • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not only are good and compact articles few and far between. The problem is that nowadays, a lot of the article you click on will have a paywall so reading them is impossible ( unless using barley functioning services that claim to remove it) After a while, you expect the article to be paywalled and either move on or comment based on the provided info.

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    • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those auto tldr summaries can be super random and misleading too regardless. The auto tldr summary doesn’t imply anything like this either. It’s just a section of the article with an expert making fun of whatever expert the DA hired who missed that it was a forgery and thought it was authentic. So it’s embarrassing because they told this country, he we recovered your priceless artifact and threw the guy in jail who smuggled it. And the country is like, oh well that’s nice but the artifact was never missing in the first place. If you want to comment on something at least read the article first, or you’ll just be spreading misleading clickbait headlines even more.

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      • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I reckon I made a mistake here. I usually read the article but since almost 1 of 3 articles are locked behind paywalls I don’t bother anymore.

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• Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I gave an exemple above of why it’s actually plausible for the US to do so. Heck, if you want a real reason why " USA is always bad" just look at the map of USA backed coup.

  Yes, I expect USA do such things.

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• acockworkorange@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The response at the end of the article is funny though. “No you” but in DA.

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