Meanwhile the biggest companies, and their owners, are raking in record profits, globally.
This isn't a coincidence, it's by design - the working class gets squeezed so the capitalists can live it up with more money than anyone could spend in a thousand lifetimes. This was always the case in capitalism (and feudalism before it) of course, the pandemic was just an accelerator, they saw how much shit we would take then, and haven't stopped pushing since (like with the wars, that of course aren't some unfortunate biological mutation, but a choice made by some very wealthy and powerful people to try and increase their wealth and power). And the more they squeeze, the more desperate people get, which means we're easier to manipulate, exploit, and divide.
If it wasn't so evil, you might admire how well it works (for them, of course) - individualism and consumerism have been so deeply ingrained (along with the "basics" capitalism was built on - racism, sexism, ableism, cis-heteronormativity, and so on), and socialism and communism (never mind anarchism) framed as the true evils of the world, and just like that you keep the working class so divided and distracted and focused on getting themselves out of the bucket you've put them in, that they don't even realise that if they work together they can tip the bucket over and all be free..
wscholermann@aussie.zone 10 months ago
Capitalism has it’s issues no doubt, but communism is not the answer either and its own litany of sins, including massacres and even genocide (i.e. Ukraine). All systems must be looked at with a critical eye and a realistic appreciation of human nature. To do otherwise is perilous.
Shalakushka@kbin.social 10 months ago
Eleventy gorillion deaths holomodomor black book I'm sooo scared the commies are gonna take my toothbrush!!
The deaths from war and starvation over capital never seem to be the fault of capitalism to you types. That's always just "the way of the world" and "human nature". You are happy to let people die of exposure and then claim your pet economic system had nothing to do with it, so your conscience can remain clear while you shill for the economic model that destroyed your planet.
wscholermann@aussie.zone 10 months ago
sighs I never actually said any of the things you just claimed and nor was I mounting a defence of capitalism. I just simply make the point that communism isn’t the light on hill that the original commenter seems to think it is, which is easily demonstrated.
rainynight65@feddit.de 10 months ago
If only you could just as easily demonstrate where exactly the person you responded to seems to think communism is the ‘light on the hill’…
0ddysseus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Here you go: The Irish Famine, Indian Famines, Indigenous Genocide, Slavery, Indonesian Genocide (backed by the USA), 1973 Chile Coup, Pinochet Dictatorship + Pinochet Concentration Camps, Argentina Dictatorship + Argentina Concentration Camps, Brazilian Dictatorship, The Pakistan Incident (Bangladesh Genocide), The Gilded Age, The Great Depression, Operation Condor, Batista Dictatorship, Guantanamo Bay, Vietnam War, My Lai Massacre, Operation Rolling Thunder, Sinchon Massacre, Kent State Massacre, Patriot Act, Red Summer, Jim Crow, MK Ultra, 1985 MOVE Bombing, Partition of India, US Prison Industrial Complex + US Prison Slavery, The 1921 Battle of Blair Mountain, Malayan Emergency + “New Village” Concentration Camps, Repression of the Mau Mau Rebellion + British Mau Mau “Detention Camps”, Covert War in Yemen, Stanley Meyer Incident, Genocide in Turkey, Congolese Genocide (over half the population killed and much of the remaining mutilated), Greek Civil War + Ai Stratis Concentration Camps, Invasion of Cyprus by Turkey, Washita River Massacre, Nanjing Massacre + Current Nanjing Massacre Denial, December Massacres, Ganghwa Massacre, Geochang Massacre, Goyang Geumjeong Cave Massacre, Jeju Massacre (30,000 executed), Mungyeong Massacre, Namyangju Massacre, Sancheong-Hamyang Massacre, Gwangju Massacre, Kentler Project, Operation Gladio, Minamata Disaster, Bhopal Disaster, Indian Mutiny, Opium Wars, 1740 Batavia Massacre, Amboyna Massacre, Lamey Island Massacre, Conquest of Banda Islands, Conquest of India, Nestlé Child Slavery, Nestlé Killing Babies With Baby Formula in Africa, Nestlé Drought in Pakistan, Nestlé Drought in Brazil, Nestlé Drought in China, Nestlé’s Deals With Dictators, Nestlé Killing Union Workers in the Philippines With a Private Army, Nestlé’s Cartel in Canada, Nestlé’s Ethiopian Debt Trap, ExxonMobil’s Private Army in Indonesia, ExxonMobil’s Torture in Indonesia, Banana Massacre, Maya Genocide (Guatemalan Genocide), Ludlow Massacre, Partition of India, Repression of Haiti Slave Revolt, French conquest of Algeria, 228 Massacre (Taiwan), US Conquest of the Philippines, French exploitation of Africa, German Genocide of the Herero & Namaqua, French Suppression of Madagascar Revolt, Tlatelolco Massacre, US Laos Bombing, Somoza Nicaragua Dictatorship, East Timor Massacre, El Salvador Dictatorship, Contra Proxy War in Nicaragua, US Invasion of Panama, Residential Schools, British Capitalism killing around 100 million people in India in just 40 years (1880-1920), The United Fruit Company taking over Costa Rica, Honduras, & Guatemala as essentially a government for profit (The Banana Wars), the Dole company taking over Hawaii as essentially a government for profit and appointing its CEO as the president of Hawaii, The US brutalizing Korea in the Korean War into what it is today, South Korea executing suspected leftists along with their families (Bodo League Massacre), South Korea detonating a civilian bridge in Seoul (Hanging Bridge Bombing), South Korea’s labour camps for the homeless (Brothers Home), South Korea currently using the mentally disabled as salt mining slaves, Argentina’s president Carlos Menem dropping bombs in Río Tercero to hide state gun trafficking, continuing flow of US military aid to the Philippines government to kill innocent civilians and progressives, Thomas Midgely Jr knowingly poisoning people with leaded gasoline for profits, forced labour in private US prisons incentivizing false imprisonment, the USA military gunning down civilians in Iraq on purpose (Collateral Murder) then going on a multi year man hunt for the man who leaked it (Julian Assange), the majority of USA drone strikes taking place in countries the US hasn’t even declared war on, 90% of people killed in US drone strikes being innocents, the USA imprisoning the man who revealed the drone strikes civilian casualties, 1/3 of the world’s population living under US sanctions, America supporting 70% of current dictatorships, USA and UN targeting civilians in the Korean War killing millions (part of Operation Rolling Thunder), West Germany never released any of the LGBTQ+ people from the Holocaust camps and kept them in prison until 1994, Industrielleneingabe, the Nazis being funded by capitalists who wanted them to silence the left, Hitler trying to justify the Holocaust by saying every Jewish person was a communist and vice versa (Judeo-Bolshevism), the Nazis having lucrative deals with Ford, GM, IBM and other American companies, cigarette companies killing all of their customers slowly, Capitalist food companies replacing traditional fats with chemically treated vegetable oils which are extremely bad for us and has lead to the rise in health related deaths merely because it’s cheaper this way.
wscholermann@aussie.zone 10 months ago
Paragraph spacing is helpful. That aside I could provide a list of communist ills just as long. What’s your point? My point is clear - communism doesn’t provide the utopia you are looking for.
Shalakushka@kbin.social 10 months ago
Why does communism have to create utopia to be a competitor to capitalism, which demonstrably creates dystopia?
0ddysseus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Its a copypasta that has been around for years to use when some bootlicking Muppet goes “yeah but capitalism is da best and solves all our problems” We get it, you’re white and think you’re middle class and everything works out for you. Congrats. Your privilege is built on the bodies of poor brown people
rainynight65@feddit.de 10 months ago
That wasn’t the claim OP made.
DessertStorms@kbin.social 10 months ago
"free mind free market" lmfao, ok bootlicker.. 🙄
https://medium.com/international-workers-press/misconceptions-about-communism-2e366f1ef51f
wscholermann@aussie.zone 10 months ago
So now you’re name calling? You’re a child, grow up.