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• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “but it was unpopular”

  Eh… Yeah? That’s the point?

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• dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And a day fine is?

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The court sentences a person to say 28 day fines based on the severity of the crime, the day fine’s value is determined by the income of the person sentenced.

    So a rich guy will pay far more for the same infraction than a poor guy.

    The system is meant to equalize the concequenses regardless of how much moneybyou have.

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    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks for the response.

      I have always thought fines should be relative so this is a great way of doing it imo.

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  • DarkMessiah@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So, there’s a base minimum fine for things, but the actual fine beyond that is based on the income of the person who received it. You earn more beyond a certain amount, you pay more sort of thing.

    It actually makes fines useful as a deterrent for the rich instead of a price-of-entry, though I’m of the opinion that anyone who makes above a certain amount who would earn a fine should earn jail time instead.

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    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks for the response.

      I agree, the fines in the UK are just an inconvenience if you’re rich.

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m of the opinion that anyone who makes above a certain amount who would earn a fine should earn jail time instead.

      That goes against the spirit of democracy and laws. Why should someone rich go to jail for speeding alone on the highway while a middle class parent could do the exact same infraction with their kids in the car and just pay a ticket?

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  • ultorpha@lemmy.nz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Perhaps I want discussion.

      After using Bing. A day fine is a fine based on the offenders daily personal income.

      Have you tried positive intent?

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    • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You could answer any question on the internet like this. It’s super condescending. Although I admit I chuckled.

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  • Jesus_666@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Now, others have already explained that is a fine based on a days’ earnings (usually estimated from annual income). I’d like to add that implementing this for companies is why EU legislation like the GDPR is so fearsome.

    If a company violates the GDPR badly enough¹ they can be fined up to 4% of their annual revenue or 20 million euros, whichever is higher. No matter what size that company is, that kind of fine hurts enough to be a deterrent. And suddenly everyone is very interested in following the law, even the guys with bigger budgets than some countries.

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    ¹ Less egregious violations have halved max fines. Still enough to be really painful.

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  • Rotkehle@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    based on your income

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• MudMan@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There are more than that.

  Source: we use them and we're not on that list. Kinda weird that Macau snuck in there before us, honestly. Maybe because here there are hard amount caps and in practice the system is used more as a tool to update fine amounts at intervals than as a hard math way to relate to income? I don't know if that ends up being the case in other places applying the system.

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  • Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You didn't mention who 'we' are

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    • MudMan@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don't typically broadcast that. Not that you couldn't put it together if you stalked me for a while. But also, maybe don't do that if I don't broadcast it.

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