Comment on One thing the fandoms can agree on.

• setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Jorge is a fantastically creative guy. He needs limitations on that creativity, but he is undeniably a foundation of ideas.

  JJ Abrams mostly regurgitates without having any truly unique ideas. Especially in Star Wars and Trek, he took a bunch of the most surface level aspects from the franchises and threw them in without really doing anything with them.

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  • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    His black box storytelling is garbage and the coincidence-based plot in that SW movie was unforgivable.

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    • BeardedSingleMalt@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What’s even funnier is when he tells how he came up with his “mystery box” method. He tries to play it off as some kind of profound insightful story from his childhood about magic shops. But then he explains it as the magic shops would package the junk that didn’t sell into an unmarked “mystery box” to create intrigue which duped people into buying it. He outright admits he’s selling junk

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      • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah. In that Jon Stewart interview he straight up says that he never liked Star Trek and that “Star Trek was always too philosophical for me.”

        He sucks so bad.

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    • setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not in that SW movie. In two of those SW movies.

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• The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wait, is that what J. J. stands for?

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  • ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It is now.

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• dejected_warp_core@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ll add that this didn’t start with the SW prequel movies either. The various essays on the topic typically focus on The Phantom Menace to make this case (see: Red Letter Media); we do love to hate on that movie. But if you look to early drafts of the very first Star Wars movie script, it’s clear that it took a village to make it more than B-movie material. Also, the making-of stories are complete with every kind of move-making person improving and adding to our producer’s vision, right down to salvaging the whole mess in the editing room. It’s been a problem the entire time.

  Now I wonder if THX-1138 and American Graffiti have similar war-stories behind them.

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