Comment on A Jury Will Decide If Google's App Store Is an Unjust Monopoly

penquin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, I’m wondering why Google got targeted first for this when Apple locks down their ecosystem a lot more. Not to defend Google, I would cheer a decision to break them up.

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  • DeadlineX@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They didn’t. Epic sued Apple in 2021. They lost. They’ve already filed for appeal. They are targeting Apple and Google for the same infraction. It’s not about the App Store, it’s mostly about the 30% commission both companies take on app sales AND in app purchases.

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    • Phrodo_00@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not about the App Store, it’s mostly about the 30% commission both companies take on app sales [in the app store] AND in app purchases [through the app store].

      How is it not about the app store?

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      • DeadlineX@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I guess it is, I just mean it’s not about the App Store itself, so much as the continued costs. I think it’s more the in app purchases that is the problem. Google and Apple don’t allow in app purchases without paying them a huge cut.

        Epic doesn’t really have a problem using the app stores. They just don’t want to pay such a massive commission for no reason. Google makes it difficult to use other app stores, and Apple doesn’t allow it. This means that you either pay them in perpetuity for every micro transaction, or you don’t get to push your app.

        So I guess my point was just that the app stores are the ultimate root of the issue, but it goes a lot deeper than just the app stores themselves to the predatory pricing structure major companies impose. If this is successful eventually, or if the Apple appeal is, we have the potential to see a real shift in the way compensation for developers is handled. I’m being optimistic of course, but it would be nice.

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  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Apple paid off more government officials?

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  • SchizoDenji@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because once Google play store is down, it will set a precedent to take apple store down too.

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    • itsathursday@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Bingo

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• ADON15@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You can side load them, kinda, its just a huge pain so your point still stands

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  • penquin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Do you have a method that keeps sideloaded apps “verified” permanently? If you do, please do tell. I’d love to install YouTube++ on my kid’s tablet so they don’t have to sit through ads all the time.

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    • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Just download Xcode, it’s free, and it’s from Apple. With that you can deploy any app (if you have the binary) on ten devices linked to your own Apple ID and the devices of a hundred other Apple IDs (supposed to be work colleagues, but your kid’s tablet will be fine).

      You can also “sideload” your app to up ten thousand devices linked to other Apple IDs via TestFlight which is intended for developers to test apps that aren’t ready for distribution yet, though that process does require a partial review by Apple (it’s mostly just an automated malware scan, not a full app review).

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    • refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Check out Yattee on the App Store. It’s a client for Piped.

      apps.apple.com/us/app/yattee/id1595136629

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      • penquin@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Thank you so much. I’ll check it out

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• DeadlineX@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Epic sued Apple in 2021. Google and Apple removed Fortnite from their respective app stores within hours of each other. Epic was ready with lawyers and announced they were going to court. They lost the case against Apple. They’ve already filed an appeal.

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