Comment on Artists lose first copyright battle in the fight against AI-generated images

Sabre363@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• krayj@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  In the US, copyright is implicit. All work is instantly protected by copyright the moment it is created. Registering with copyright office is optional/voluntary. I think the judge’s comments that you are referring to was probably referring to the works where copyright protections were waived by the artists for works placed into public domain (which, on Deviant Art, covers a vast amount).

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  • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    works placed into public domain (which, on Deviant Art, covers a vast amount)

    So especially poor and young artists get exploited. Why am I not surprised.

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• Mahlzeit@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Bit of a long story…

  Some forms of intellectual property require registration. For example patents. Patents are supposed to encourage technological development by allowing inventors to monetize their work. There’s a lot of justified criticism of that system but, on the whole, it seems to have worked.

  Originally, US copyrights worked in exactly the same way, for the same purpose. The requirement to register for copyright was dropped in 1978. However, registration still plays a role in US law for some legal purposes.

  So what happened to copyright?

  Europe developed a different copyright tradition, in the 19th century, while it was stilled largely ruled by oppressive autocracies. The monarchs of the 19th century were not the overpaid figureheads that still exist in some countries.

  Copyrights today last (usually) until 70 years after the author’s death, while patents which underpin tech progress last (usually) only 20 years in total. You can see that this is very different. That copyright revolves around the death of a person shows how it is a personal privilege, as were normal in aristocracies. The purpose is to enable people to extract money without any consideration for the interests of society as a whole. It’s about rent-seeking.

  Nowadays, US content production (Hollywood, etc.) dwarfs that of Europe. The better copyright laws of the US may have something to do with that. Although the US has gradually shifted over to the rent-seeking European model, there are still some advantages left.

  As the content producers in the US grew, the US gradually switched over to the rent-seeking model. I think this is largely because the content producers also gained more lobbying powers.

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The biggest trick the rich ever pulled was fooling the public into thinking copyright benefits everybody. It doesn’t. It only benefits them. It will only ever benefit them.

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  • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    yeah Disney is famous for lobbying to protect their Mickey mouse copyright.

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• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  intellectual property is a fiction. it’s a term used to snow people. there is no such thing, nor should there be.

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  • Sabre363@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Intellectual property is a social construct, but that does not negate its reality or make it fictitious. Its the very thing that copyrights, patents, trademarks and countless laws were created to protect. And it’s an invaluable tool for people that need to protect their ideas and creations, especially artists and makers. The issue with intellectual property is that most of the laws surrounding it were created by/for corporations and rich people, and wind up fucking the rest of us over.

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    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      copyrights, patents, trademarks

      anyone using one term to refer to all of these is being fundamentally dishonest: they are completely separate laws with different histories and uses. stallman says anyone using this term is trying to snow you. i agree.

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      • Sabre363@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’m not convinced you even know what intellectual property is and aren’t merely parroting the controversial opinions of random people on the internet. Here are some links that might be of use to you;

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    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      people share. food, recipes, songs, pictures, tools. to use a government-enforced monopoly to interfere with people sharing is fucking immoral.

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• Kbobabob@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Copyright is a form of intellectual property? So are trademarks, patents, and trade secrets.

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  • Sabre363@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My understanding has always been that artworks that you create are your intellectual property that is automatically copywrited, at least in the United States. From the article it seems like that is either not true or it’s being ignored by the court.

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    • brianorca@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It is automatically copyrighted, but you do have to register before you bring a legal action for infringement.

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      • Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What does it being automatically copyrighted mean then?

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