Comment on Xbox's new policy — say goodbye to unofficial accessories from November thanks to error '0x82d60002'

kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Pxtl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Simple: because they’re cheaper.

  Like, say you build a gaming PC that’s comparable to a PS5. I think it would be extremely hard to come up with a combination of PSU, ram, mobo, GPU, CPU, wifi, storage, case, keyboard, mouse, and game controller that costs less than a PS5 and has comparable performance. Even if you picked entry-level components. And you still have to pay the Windows tax probably. And all of that was much more difficult than just buying a PS5 – not everybody has the time.

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  • HC4L@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Then again, rebuying all your games and paying way too much for them is something to take into account. But admittedly, the PS5’s thing where you can play some PS4 games is pretty neat.

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• TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As a consumer, having certified static hardware configuration means you know exactly how it’s going to run off reviews on the same hardware. You know that you are going to get support the manufacturer and aren’t going to have to worry about the manufacturer of the motherboard pointing fingers at the manufacturer of the GPU or RAM or CPU if you have a problem. Updates and driver support is all handled by the OS.

  But probably the biggest reason is that consoles already have the best name recognition, higher user adoption, and hardware is sold at a discount compared to comparable PCs.

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• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  because having a stable, unchanging platform is a lot easier to code on and extract performance from than the 100,000,000,000 billion possible combinations of PC hardware.

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  • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • PinkPanther@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t have a lot of time for gaming, and my desktop computer I built 12 years ago still works for what I need it for (and the occasional Rocket League rounds), so the PS5 is just easier. Plug and play when I want to.

      Been playing games I got through the PS+ Extra for two years, and haven’t purcy for a single game since, as I’m a patient gamer, and the selection of games is right up my alley!

      Oh, and if I’d have the money (and time), I’d get aPC instead. Maybe when the PS6 is released.

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    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its not my fault, so why don’t you go take a breath.

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      • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• spudwart@spudwart.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If you use windows, this is the way it will be on PC in a few years as well.

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  • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • sizzler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Didn’t we lose one of the two main gpu producers recently?

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      • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Lose one? I’m not sure what you’re talking about, to be fair. Are you thinking about EVGA no longer making GPUs? They’re just making the boards, not the chips, many competitors exist.

        We have 3 major players providing GPUs in the PC market: Nvidia with a significant lead, AMD, and the newcomer Intel.

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      • bamboo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No? Nvidia and AMD have been the main competitors for a while in the high end space, and Intel recently entered that market after dominating the integrated GPU space.

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  • Clbull@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think the moment that happens, it’ll truly become the year of the Linux desktop.

    Over the course of fifteen years, we went from WINE being able to run nothing but World of Warcraft in a playable state, to thousands of games now being playable through Proton with equivalent or even sometimes better performance than Windows.

    Valve were wise to put their eggs in the Linux basket, because they’ve evolved Linux as a gaming platform by leaps and bounds. Steam Machines may have flopped but the Steam Deck has sold millions and given developers legitimate reason to support Linux (or at least SteamOS.)

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• csolisr@communities.azkware.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Console developers sell at a loss specifically to tie you to their ecosystem and get as much money from you as possible. Which is why it’s so complicated to get a PC equivalent in specs to, say, a PS5 at the price of an actual PS5 - unless you go to the used parts route and learn how to assemble parts by yourself.

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• LazyBane@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Back in the day, Nintendo got big on quality control. That’s less of a selling point now that almost every big publisher is pushing for yearly releases and devs need to rush out unfinished games to meet corporate expectations. A console was also just miles ahead in user friendliness that a computer up until around the PS4/Xbone.

  The way forward for consoles these days is to have more interesting hardware, but Microsoft is resistant to just having gyro in the xbox controller so don’t hold your breath for the next xbox being anything worth looking at.

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• HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because it is cheaper to develop for, so you tend to get games that take better advantage of the hardware and increase performance.

  You also have consumer inertia too.

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  • kadu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    so you tend to get games that take better advantage of the hardware and increase performance.

    Well, just like I’ve replied to the other user below… Games are already running worse on the consoles this generation, and it’s by a pretty significant margin given how this generation was all about promising 4K and ray tracing performance. So this supposed “advantage” of better usage of the hardware means nothing in the end, because the hardware is that much far behind.

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    • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But are they worse than a $500 off the shelf computer?

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      • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Consoles are initially sold at a loss or no profit to incentivise people to buy games on their platform, where the real profit is made. However, at this point in time, yes, you can buy pre-built gaming PCs for around $500 that will run circles around an XBOX Series X or PlayStation 5. You can even buy a $300 office computer then pop an A580 or something in it and make it a fully-equipped gaming PC. Even more so if you use your own hardware and build it yourself.

        If you’re just looking for something that works out of the box when you buy it, there are tonnes of people on Facebook Marketplace selling custom-built gaming PCs for around that price range that will still outperform lastest-generation consoles.

        Don’t forget, when comparing performance, consoles generally use a mixture of medium/high settings to guarantee a steady 60 FPS whereas PC testing is traditionally done on Ultra/High presets.

        I will say that PCs do require a bit more technical knowledge and maybe some tinkering to get the best performance though. If all you do is game and you know nothing about how to do anything else on the computer, I would recommend the console ten out of ten times.

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• flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  While there some advantages to that static more gate kept setup that we all could argue about for years on end, the answer to your question boils down to money and control like pretty much everything else.

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