Comment on Honest question: what was Hamas' long-game with respect to kidnapping Israelis? Did they think Israel would just negotiate rather than retaliate?

• DarkGamer@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  most of the land purchased was not from Palestinians, the area was under British mandate.

  Does that make the purchases any less legal? One need not be Palestinian to own land there.

  From the beginning Palestinians resisted Jewish immigration, they did not consent to any of this, and all of their fears have proven true with time.

  Is Jewish immigration really the cause of all this, or is it the intolerance and inability for some to peacefully coexist? The 20% of Israeli Palestinians descended from those who stayed and remained peaceful in 1948 are doing relatively well and have full citizenship rights there. These fears were only realized for those who refused to put down the sword, it was a self-fulfilling prophecy for them. I find it ironic that they themselves are now the refugees that their neighbors will not take in.

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  • blazera@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean legality doesnt mean much when youre talking about unwanted colonialist rule

    And 100% all of this stems from zionism. They had to live in the holy land, people were there already, so they killed or exiled hundreds of thousands of people from their homes.

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    • DarkGamer@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      legality doesnt mean much when youre talking about unwanted colonialist rule

      Are you suggesting that no real estate sales were valid while the British were in charge? What about when it was the Ottoman Turks that were colonizing it, should we ignore all property rights from that period, too? How many local people need to object to immigrants owning property before you support violence against the immigrants and denial of their property rights?

      And 100% all of this stems from zionism. They had to live in the holy land, people were there already, so they killed or exiled hundreds of thousands of people from their homes.

      The 1948 UN borders had Jerusalem in neither state's territory. Palestine went to war over it. If they lose the holy land to Israel, this is why.

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      • blazera@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If it was a palestinian government representing palestinians, and they decided it was okay to allow this planned ethnostate orfanization to buy property en masse, i wouldnt have much to argue about. But it wasnt a palestinian government, this decision was against the will of the people living there, which is what i care about.

        And man, 700,000 palestinians were killed or exiled from where they were. That cannot happen if youre the invading army. Israel went to war over it and captured palestinian land.

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