Comment on Interesting how artists don't make enough money from their creations, so our solution is to make certain information illegal to share, rather than give them a universal basic income.

• firadin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not when work takes a large amount of time to produce the original, and very little work to produce a copy. An original and a copy of a digital artwork are identical.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not when work takes a large amount of time to produce the original, and very little work to produce a copy

    if you’ve never seen someone sell their own creative work without the trappings of a government enforced monopoly, you should look into how any author or artist got paid before the statute of anne.

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    • droans@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      By the rich?

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        patronage was common. you can’t think that every artist got paid by someone who is rich though.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    wrong.

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• shrugal@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Monopolies are not about exclusively for one specific thing, but about scale and the availability of alternatives. It’s not like you can only buy pictures or music from one artist, just that you have to buy art from the artist who made it.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    none of this contradicts what I said. government enforce monopolies are wrong.

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    • shrugal@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The contradiction is that you imply copyright is always a government enforced monopoly. It can be, but it usually isn’t, especially with art. So using it as a counter argument here makes no sense.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        copyright is always a government enforced monopoly.

        that’s the only thing it is. it’s a law that grants exclusive rights to sell. how do you think it’s not in relation to art?

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  • rchive@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In a sense it is a monopoly, just a very narrow one. The first step to identifying a monopoly is identifying the relevant market, and that is quite hard to do, actually.

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  • explodicle@local106.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Further reading for anyone interested

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• Girru00@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can you explain how government enforced monopolies intersects with the discussion here?

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    that’s what copyright and patent are. but you don’t need to use the cudgel of the law to sell your work. in fact, most times, it’s an irrelevant factor.

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