Having an opinion (even a controversial one) isn’t hate speech. Does the song actually call for anything hateful?
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ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months agoWe can remove hate speech though, and conflating hate speech with “every single piece of art we find objectionable” is dodgy af.
AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 8 months ago
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s only two genders, you’re parents are jackin’ you up
They might as well put some crack in your cup
You came out innocent, now you’re corrupt
Now, you stand on the bridge, and you just wanna jump, heh
Got these pink-haired devils
Teachin’ the kids in the school, they are vessels
Used by the enemy, he’s just a rebel
Let’s turn up the kettle
When God gets ahold of 'em, he won’t be gentle (he won’t be gentle
Yes, it does.
abuttifulpigeon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s no call to action, all those lyrics are saying is that the author believes God will punish them, he’s not telling everyone else to do the same.
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The problem is that there are people who think that God has called to them to punish the “sinners,” so lyrics like that can very easily be the encouragement those people need to commit to action.
It’s dangerous to talk about a group of people that way. It’s dehumanizing.
cricket97@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah it’s making fun of people. That doesn’t make it hate speech. Most of the world believes there are two genders, people are allowed to make fun of people who disagree with them.
AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How are people so knowledgeable on a song that they dislike. Don’t listen move on…
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It took me a minute to read through the lyrics so that I could be informed about exactly what’s in the controversial song.
It’s easy to have an informed opinion.
Jonna@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Quoting from the song, “LGBTQ, Let God Burn Them Quickly” Does that qualify?
AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No. You can’t call god to incite violence. God doesn’t exist, if they did I’d like to think that they’d be inclusive.
JewGoblin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I hear China is lovely this time of year
abuttifulpigeon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Man, I can say “The sky is blue” and someone will say it’s hate speech.
Bruno_Myers@lemmy.world 8 months ago
[deleted]abuttifulpigeon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Blind people. Really offensive to say something that other people can’t experience themselves.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Show us a single blind person who actually believes that.
cricket97@lemmy.world 8 months ago
saying “there are two genders” is not hate speech. You are allowed to make fun of people in a song, that doesn’t make it hate speech.
Jonna@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Quoting from the song, “LGBTQ, Let God Burn Them Quickly” Is that not hate speech?
cricket97@lemmy.world 8 months ago
He’s saying gay people will go to hell. Not hate speech but rather an accurate reflection of what he believes.
Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Eminem has a lot of homophobic lyrics. Think you’re going to get him removed? Music has always pushed the boundaries of what’s acceptable. Sometimes that’s a good thing, other times it’s not. But I think an artists freedom of expression overrides your feelings.
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
If he’s still posting homophobic music, then yeah, that shit needs to be removed.
littlecolt@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Said f*ggot in his recent track with Busta Rhymes, says he still hates them. I complain about this all the time. It’s a big problem in hip hop. Even up and coming rappers like Token use the slur in their lyrics and it annoys me to no end. A lot of these people are fairly intelligent. It’s just so deeply rooted in the culture as a way to insult masculinity.
CAVOK@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not only homophobia. Rap music has a huge problem with sexism and misogyny.
And then there’s bands like Cannibal corpse.
Not saying that transphobia is OK, but there’s a lot of weird and questionable music out there.
Pirate_lemmy_arrrrR@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
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I don’t think he hates gay people. But his music is controversy, that’s its selling point. And I think your last sentence is spot on. For your typical “masculine” man, being called gay is an insult. It shouldn’t be, but unfortunately that’s the way it is.
cricket97@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s okay for people to express their opinions even if you consider them bad opinions
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
It’s ok for people to hate on gay folk says the person who isn’t gay
Bruno_Myers@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Jonna@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There’s homophobic remarks and there are songs that are nothing but homophobia from start to end.
Hobo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes but MTV was never obligated to play Eminem’s videos and quite often censred them. Hell Walmart is responsible for at least two decades of CD censorship. Is Spotify obligated to host offensive songs/images? I don’t think there’s a great answer to that question, but it bugs the crap out of me trying to figure it out. The only thing that I’ve seen that sort of hoodwinks the issue is the fediverse, and I don’t think there’s a federated music platform.
toobeyonewing@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They can host it. I’m just not going to pay them to do so.