Comment on The FCC is Expected to Propose the Return of Net Neutrality Protections Oct 19th

jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That has literally nothing to do with net neutrality.

  All net neutrality means is that at the ISP level all traffic is treated the same and the ISP cannot step in and do shit like, for example, block all traffic coming from a VPN server. Or block all torrent packets. Or block all ENCRYPTED packets. Or slowly deliver Facebook packets because Twitter paid them to do so.

  All traffic is treated equally, regardless of content.

  What an individual website does with its own API is not even in this conversation.

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  • psycho_driver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In other words Net Neutrality is about stalling the further enshitification of everything.

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Shutting down their API is the direct anti-competitive action which goes against net neutrality. It stifles innovation.

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    • pickscrape@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That argument is similar to the whole “platform N taking down content violates the 1st amendment” argument. It’s a non sequitur.

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ll see if I can make it more sense for you:

        If you argue that the pathways that make up the internet should not be artifically restricted or gated as a means of shuttibg down competition, while at the same time turning around and shutting down your own public pathways, that’s a huge problem.

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    • hiddengoat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Reddit is not a fucking ISP, now are they?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality

      Learn before you make yourself look like an idiot.

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        And, if you argue that an ISP shouldn’t be engaging in anti-competitive networking while at the same time (or in this case, a couple of years later) doing the same thing, that’s a huge problem.

        And make no mistake, what they did WAS anti-competitive. They wanted to shut down the 3rd party apps that put a magnifying glass on all the problems with the official reddit app just before a proposed IPO.

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    • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not sure if that holds

      They’re not stopping competition, they’re gatekeeping access to their system

      Competition is allowed still, for example, the site were using right now to communicate this very conversation

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        They are stopping competition. They didn’t want superior 3rd party apps competing with their super shitty app just before a proposed IPO.

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• Whitebrow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Good chunk of the people who give a hoot about this, have already migrated from Reddit, so hard to say, who knows though? Guess we’ll see

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