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BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 11 months agoI see what you’re trying to do but that’s very much a false equivalence. It’s more akin to the US’ role in the creation of the Taliban (among many, many other orgs)
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BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 11 months agoI see what you’re trying to do but that’s very much a false equivalence. It’s more akin to the US’ role in the creation of the Taliban (among many, many other orgs)
man_in_space@kbin.social 11 months ago
How is it a false equivalence? The Constitution literally said that Black people were 60% of a person. The South chose officials who enforced and fought tooth and nail to subjugate Blacks (Bleeding Kansas, anyone?).
The South had to go. (Or do you consider them a poor, marginalized population for what the Union did to them?)
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Enlighten me, what similar situations are happening with Israel and Palestine that makes this comparison relevant? The politics and history around slavery in the US are completely different than this
man_in_space@kbin.social 11 months ago
Whites voted to support (wanted) an avowedly racist system. Whites brutalized Blacks—beating them, maiming them, raping them, killing them. War came calling.
Palestinians vote to support (want) an avowedly racist system. Palestinians are brutalizing Jews (and others who happen to be there)—beating them, maiming them, raping them, killing them. War comes calling.
In both cases, the people voted according to their views and values.
It should be noted that even after the War (and we can blame the Republicans for this, the deal that got Rutherford B. Hayes into office ended Reconstruction) these things continued. The KKK is still alive and kicking today. The Union was not without sin in this.
You don’t appease antisemites. Apparently the lesson didn’t stick last time.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Did the South have left-wing, secular parties with popular support that wanted abolition? Did the north actively suppress these parties while funding a group of religious extremists to do their dirty work and then turn on them when the arrangement wasn’t convenient to them? Was the north violently oppressing the south for decades before the civil war? Did the north interfere in the elections that lead to the religious extremists gaining control of the south? Are the results of that election hotly contested to this day?