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man_in_space@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

And the Founding Fathers in the United States created the situation of slavery in the South as a power play. Doesn’t make the South any less culpable for their misdeeds.

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BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I see what you’re trying to do but that’s very much a false equivalence. It’s more akin to the US’ role in the creation of the Taliban (among many, many other orgs)

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- man_in_space@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  How is it a false equivalence? The Constitution literally said that Black people were 60% of a person. The South chose officials who enforced and fought tooth and nail to subjugate Blacks (Bleeding Kansas, anyone?).
  
  The South had to go. (Or do you consider them a poor, marginalized population for what the Union did to them?)
  
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  - BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Enlighten me, what similar situations are happening with Israel and Palestine that makes this comparison relevant? The politics and history around slavery in the US are completely different than this
    
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    man_in_space@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Whites voted to support (wanted) an avowedly racist system. Whites brutalized Blacks—beating them, maiming them, raping them, killing them. War came calling.
    
    Palestinians vote to support (want) an avowedly racist system. Palestinians are brutalizing Jews (and others who happen to be there)—beating them, maiming them, raping them, killing them. War comes calling.
    
    In both cases, the people voted according to their views and values.
    
    It should be noted that even after the War (and we can blame the Republicans for this, the deal that got Rutherford B. Hayes into office ended Reconstruction) these things continued. The KKK is still alive and kicking today. The Union was not without sin in this.
    
    You don’t appease antisemites. Apparently the lesson didn’t stick last time.
    
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