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flooppoolf@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Also, is there regulations in place that prohibit this from happening?

For example, if my all in one GPS CarOS Bluetooth WiFi CarPlay Android Auto headset decides to take a shit and die, my brake pedal absolutely better fucking work… right?

There shouldn’t be anything keeping the car from running normally. I expect any tech you wouldn’t find in a ‘66 chevelle (anything aside from 12v push lighter, signals) to be busted if telematics are disabled.

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snekerpimp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
America is a corporatocracy, with automotive as a major player, there will be no help from the government on this.

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- flooppoolf@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Well, after the electronic brake scandal with Toyota I’m sure the redundancies Tangler is talking about were set in place. It sucks here but we’re not in the Cyberpunk Dystopia just yet.
  
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  - snekerpimp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    These are not Apache helicopters. These are designed and manufactured on a shoestring budget. They don’t have time or money for any redundancy, and there is no current policy in place that I know of that mandates redundancy of by-wire systems.
    
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- MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  corporatocracy
  
  Plutocracy with a bit of democracy?
  
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  - snekerpimp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    wikipedia explains it well
    
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    MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Didn’t think this is really a thing.
    
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TheWildTangler@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Electronic throttle and breaking have redundancies, you should be safe in that regard

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- snekerpimp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m curious what electronic throttle’s redundancy is? I have been in automotive parts and repair almost 15 years, and drive by wire has no redundancy. If that module goes bad, or connection corrodes, you are dead in the water. Braking has always been hydraulic based but with electric actuators for ABS, so I kinda see your point of redundancy there. Steering has to be mechanical, but Lexus and Mercedes have been chipping away at that for a decade, and they are asking for no mechanical fallback, as it would hurt the user experience.
  
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  - CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Less of a “backup” and more of a “fail closed” system, from what I’ve seen. The throttle will at least have the decency to drop to idle when it stops working as opposed to staying at it’s last position.
    
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