Submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
https://techxplore.com/news/2023-10-cars-privacy-nightmare-wheels.html
Cars are a ‘privacy nightmare on wheels’. Here’s how they get away with collecting and sharing your data::Cars with internet-connected features are fast becoming all-seeing data-harvesting machines—a so-called “privacy nightmare on wheels,” according to US-based research conducted by the Mozilla Foundation.
Wonder if you disabled cellular on these cars, take away its ability to call home, if the car would still be usable, or would it just brick itself?
Also, is there regulations in place that prohibit this from happening?
For example, if my all in one GPS CarOS Bluetooth WiFi CarPlay Android Auto headset decides to take a shit and die, my brake pedal absolutely better fucking work… right?
There shouldn’t be anything keeping the car from running normally. I expect any tech you wouldn’t find in a ‘66 chevelle (anything aside from 12v push lighter, signals) to be busted if telematics are disabled.
America is a corporatocracy, with automotive as a major player, there will be no help from the government on this.
Electronic throttle and breaking have redundancies, you should be safe in that regard
$80,000 brand new luxury sedan with a voided 30,000 mile warranty and permanently enabled check engine light more likely.
See, even if you cut the antenna, the transmitter is still there putting out a signal. Once you get close enough to a tower, in the right conditions, signal could get out, dumping any data stored. Disabling it by removing the SIM or the transmitter would be the best way to go, though I’m sure most are eSIM.
Varies widely, sometimes you can call in and opt-out, boom done. It will naturally take the cellular features like hotspot, app stuff with it. It will be very make/model specific. You can do it on Toyota’s by pulling a fuse if calling don’t work and you only lose the microphone.
I have 2 questions: I suppose there isn’t a jailbreaking scene for cars due to potential security/insurance concerns? (beyond unlocking infotainment features) and 2: are any manufacturers using open source software for their systems?
They’re all built on an open source base, but everything they add is proprietary
1: there is, but at this point its pretty niche and scattered. Lots of its hush-hush due to like you said potential security/insurance concerns. Mostly used for cracking and getting system/diagnostics readouts and error codes, Fowithout forking out cash to do so through the so called “proper channels”.
Countering this is very make-specific and you can have options ranging from calling in (opt-out) to pulling fuses to messing with dash wiring.
Make/Vehicle-specific forums will likely be a good resource to start with but naturally you’ll have to deal with the “you have phone, lul” defeatist idiots anywhere.
Considerations include age (Models with 3G radios are disconnected anyway most likely), trim (maybe only certain trim levels got a cellular radio), and features. (Hotspot, OnStar, an SOS button indicate the presence of such a telematics system)
Honest question. I feel like I’ve seen this same story 5 times already… is it being reposted a lot?
This was gonna be my comment.
I suppose that’s one thing my 2008 shitbox has going for it… Seems like every product is moving towards the advertising mindset
SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I read at Tesla employees were sending memes around around their offices with photos from inside owners garages that were compromising or amusing.