Comment on Referendum Results, Congratulations, Comiserations

• Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They list the constitutional amendment process on the page, a lot of the finer details are decided on afterwards, this has been the case for almost all referendums. It mentions specifically that consultation with aboriginal leaders, parliament and the broader public would help design the voice. It also mentions that it would work alongside existing organisations and structures, again, advisory boards are very common.

  They also explicitly state that the voice would be chosen by aboriginal and torres strait islander people based on the wishes of the community. It also says members would be chosen from each of the states, territories and the torres straight islands.

  If it’s the structure of a referendum that you have a problem with then cool, but it wasn’t a good reason to vote no.

  Also please read, it talks about all of your questions. It’s honestly frustrating to hear you say it doesn’t talk about any of it when all of these things are covered in the official literature.

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  • Whirlybird@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This isn’t one of the things that should be out in the constitution and “have the finer details decided on afterwards”. An advisory board with no power doesn’t belong in the constitution.

    There is no “official literature” with what it would look like if it won. There are lots of ideas, but nothing concrete. It can’t be both “we’ll work out the details later” and “here are the details”.

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    • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They give you the details in the literature but parliament is still the one to decide what it ultimately looks like if it passed so what’s the point in making it all “concrete” if it all changes? I really feel like you have no idea of how any of this works. And they tell you exactly what would have went into the constitution, if they changed the law so that the board had no power it would be unconstitutional.

      I’m not going to respond anymore because honestly you just seem willfully ignorant.

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      • Whirlybird@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You yes voters just can’t help but keep trying to make everyone think that you’re so much smarter than us no voters can you? 😂

        I know how it works, which is why I think attempting to make a Constitutionally protected advisory group is stupid.

        Labor didn’t even put out a “if this success this is what we will do and this is what the voice will look like”. Something as simple as that would have made a world of difference.

        I’m happy you won’t respond anymore, I’ve had enough smug virtue signalling.

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