Comment on Microsoft quietly deletes Windows 11 doc pushing 32GB RAM for gaming after outrage
vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 1 month agoEvery game released in the last 5 years can be played at 1080p on high with 8GB of ram on cachyos.
Pretending you should ever need 32GB when gaming has plateaued so dramatically in RAM requirements is absolutely silly.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 month ago
That’s a different OS altogether.
Try to run Windows in 8 gig and you’ll have a bad time.
It’s just the way it is.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Win10 on 8GB is okay in a context of basic office work. It won’t be super fast, but it can handle a CRM app, a browser and a couple of tables/docs alright without outright lagging on input. Dying HDD or pathetic CPU may be worse bottlenecks for really old or cheap setups you can find in, like, public libraries or schools.
16GB is where the current sweet spot at. You can do the same, but generally stop caring how many windows or tabs you open. You can game with it and even do some simple media manipulation.
32GB is a future-proof amount for regular usage in various applications, and, unless you already know what you are doing with extra heavy tasks, you would hardly reach this ceiling.
vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
…If I say ‘well I can travel 1,000 miles on a tank of gas in my car, so your car that can’t go 50 miles must have a problem.’ The logical response is not ‘well that’s a different car altogether, try driving my car and you won’t go 50 miles before refilling.’
Yes, it’s a different OS performing the same action; capable of performing all of the same actions entirely, while doing so much more efficiently. That was the point I was making. Windows is so incredibly shit at everything it attempts to do (and has been since windows 8) that a bunch of freelancers and essentially hobbyists are capable of doing everything windows does, but better, and for free. Just a reminder a windows 11 license costs $139 USD for the home edition. It’s $179 USD for the pro edition.
For a worse product than you can get for free.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Outside of tech circles, the majority of people with PCs are not even aware that they are paying for Windows. Pre-built desktops have the cost of the license factored into the sale price. The average consumer just thinks they are buying “a computer” as though it is a single, cohesive unit.
vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
While this has been traditionally true, anyone who has shopped for latops online recently will have the truth of the matter quite blatantly put in their face. Most major laptop makers offer (at least) Ubuntu now as alternative shipped OS’ on their products for the consumer market; with a $100-200 reduction in price. For some of the options this is easily 20% of the total cost of the laptop.
Consumers additionally are more tech savvy than before during the boomer years, especially outside the US in the larger consumer markets. Anyone in a country with a proper education system at least knows the difference between linux and windows, and for the larger consumer markets today Windows has been in sharp decline due to sanctions and tariffs making it completely unfeasible to offer to the median consumer. China is one of the largest consumer bases for technology in the last ten years, and windows simply isn’t very popular there; it is tolerated, but due to the fact you need programming and engineering course to graduate it’s not the preferred option for obvious reasons.