Comment on What kind of upbringing makes an incel?

• time_lord@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah, kinda.

  If you’re black, there are tons of black or African American support groups available. If you’re a women, again, there are tons of support groups. Black and a woman? Congrats, you can double dip.

  Now, what’s the first pro-white-male group you can think of.

  That’s why I think it’s not just an individual problem, but a societal one.

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  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Now, what’s the first pro-white-male group you can think of.

    Ku Klux Klan

    …but why would anyone want to associate with garbage white supremacists?

    If you need help or support of some sort, and you’re black, there are tons of black or African American support groups available. If you’re a women, again, there are tons of support groups. Black and a woman? Congrats, you can double dip.

    In the USA at least, those other groups (black support groups, women’s support groups) exist because of the long history of bad things that white males have done to every other race and gender. Those groups work to counteract at least a small part of the hundreds of years of white male oppression on these groups.

    Being a white male in the USA is still one the most privileged groups. Don’t think so? Ask a woman about very basic things they have to do be safe, such as having a friend with them to walk at night or worrying about a man drugging their drink at a bar/party. Ask a person of color about the risks of being fully licensed to drive a car but being in the wrong type of city, or the risks of them owning a legal firearm and having an encounter with Police officers.

    The only thing being more privileged than “white male” in the USA is “rich white male”.

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    • time_lord@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Being a white male in the USA is still one the most privileged groups.

      Agreed.

      But that doesn’t mean that white men are exempt from needing help.

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      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        With issues facing all human beings, sure! However, what help are you arguing white males need because they are white males?

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  • mycatiskai@lemmy.one ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I assume you mean what is a pro male group that doesn’t have negative societal impacts. There are plenty of pro white male groups: NFL, NHL, their fan clubs, pro soccer(euro football) fan groups, NRA, Elks, Shriners, Freemasons.

    What is really missing is a pro male, not at the cost of being neg-female group.

    Admittedly I haven’t read this whole article but this kinda group sounds reasonable: theguardian.com/…/the-good-men-inside-the-all-mal…

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