I have never heard of anyone in the U.S. who cares about the bubble color either. The only reason I ever cared was that it used to mean there was a good chance it wouldn’t get through if it was a green bubble, but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. I’ve gotten iPhone-to-iPhone green bubbles when there’s been some sort of communication difficulty to Apple’s servers and it had to go straight SMS.
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fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 8 months agoThis is weirdly only a thing in America. In Europe, where I live, iMessage isn’t that popular and iPhone users never seem to care about the bubble colour (likely because WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Element, and Threema are so popular, everyone is used to using multiple chat apps anyway).
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ericisshort@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Are you dating or in school at the moment? I if not, it might be that you’re just oblivious to this trend, because it is definitely a thing in many social circles.
fignooton@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Seeems mostly a US centric thing though. I’ve never experienced this, 99% of people here with smartphones have whatsapp/telegram and use that almost exclusively, even iphone users.
ericisshort@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No one said it wasn’t, but US is the largest and most affluent market and therefore the only one that matters. /s
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Maybe for people much younger than me. But certainly I’ve never heard of such a thing in the many years I’ve had iPhones (started with the 3).
ericisshort@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s not simply an age thing. I’m in my 40s and have definitely witnessed the judgment in the dating scene.
Zak@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I haven’t encountered any adults who actually care about that in one-on-one conversations. I have however been excluded from group chats because mixing iMessage and SMS users resulted in a degraded experience. The iPhone users were, of course unwilling to consider installing any other chat app.
I find the last bit pretty annoying. It takes about 45 seconds to download Signal and confirm your number.
paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I just had that conversation with a group of adults who all had iPhones and were unwilling to add non-iPhone people to a group or change messaging apps.
The reasons given were:
- My iPhone is too old, I can’t install another messaging app.
- I’m not going to install another app where I have to remember another password.
- Messages don’t go through when we add a non-iPhone user to the group.
The conclusion by the group was “just buy an iPhone!”
And that’s a group of adults. I can’t imagine the bullying and peer pressure teenagers have to face over something as idiotic as messaging apps.
Zak@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Meanwhile, I have six messaging apps on my phone (which is neither new nor high-end) and would be willing to install most others (not Facebook chat or Instagram) if it made communication easier for someone.
akafester@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have to say that in Denmark at least, iMessage seems to thrive quite well. There are quite a lot using Facebook messenger, but SMS and iMessage is a close second. This is entirely from my point of view. Never met anyone using the examples you mention, unless they are communicating with foreigners on a daily basis.
NoMoreCocaine@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In finland everyone I know uses WhatsApp, and my friend circle and family also use Signal. So, eh.
obbelusk@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s popular in Sweden too
Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
It is proprietary but at least it will interoperable with other phones and carriers.
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 8 months ago
RCS is an implementation of GSMA Universal Profile and is interoperable with it
fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I don’t see any public license for GSMA Universal Profile and it seems you have to engage directly with GSMA to get any detail on the standard. Very much the opposite of things like Signal which not only are the standards public but so are the reference implementations.
I still don’t see an argument for why yet another proprietary standard and protocol is a good thing.
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 8 months ago
well RCS is to be the successor to SMS, which I believe was also introduced by GSMA
phillaholic@lemm.ee 8 months ago
What you are using on Android isn’t RCS, it’s RCS+Google’s proprietary extension. There is no encryption in the spec, and the original implementation that went through carriers is ignored and it goes through Google. It’s essentially Google’s iMessage and they are trying to find their way into breaking Apple’s market share under false pretense.
fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
RCS is still IP based so why SMS should be replaced with RCS over Signal still isn’t clear. RCS and Signal are both IP based protocols yet one is proprietary and the other is libre. If we’re getting rid of SMS, we should be replacing it with something anyone can implement without any concerns for licensing or the standard being controlled by a single entity (which Google seems to be positioning themselves to be).
stevehobbes@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It is controlled and monetizable by the telcos. It isn’t better. And it’s barely standardized. Google sells a service to telcos to implement RCS that doesn’t really work well with anyone else’s RCS, or didn’t.
Go look at the amount of threads with people saying “my RCS message from my Samsung didn’t get to my friend on T-Mobile with a pixel”.
This is not the future anyone deserves.