Google’s RCS as proprietary as iMessage
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Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 11 months ago
RCS needs to happen, I’m so sick of Whatsapp.
Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
doubletwist@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But it is at least available for Apple to implement if they do choose, unlike iMessage.
Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
No, its not available. There is no FOSS RCS app, because its not available
doubletwist@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I didn’t say it was FOSS. I said that unlike iMessage, which Apple refuses to allow Android to use, RCS is available to be used by Apple if it so chooses.
Yes, a FOSS protocol/standard would be better, and I hope we have one done day that is actually available and used by default by both iOS and Android (and any other future players in the field). But until that happens, RCS is at least allowed to be used by other companies so it’s at least a small step in the right direction, even if Apple continues to stubbornly refuse to use it.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Signal is also available on every platform, you don’t need to use whatever chat app your phone’s manufacturer wants you to use, it’s your choice. And Signal is probably the best choice right now.
smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
But we are talking about messaging standards, not messaging services.
Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 11 months ago
Looks like it’s not open sources, yes.
Virkkunen@kbin.social 11 months ago
The only way something replaces WhatsApp is if WhatsApp stops existing.
Besides, RCS is not in any shape or form ready to the general public, considering all the blatant inconsistencies and instabilities, let alone replace one of the most used, tried and tested messaging platforms out there.
neblem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Why not switch to something not owned by Facebook like Signal (or something on an open protocol like Element)?
Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 11 months ago
No one I know uses Signal or is skilled enough to switch away from Whatsapp. 100% have WhatsApp.
GigglyBobble@kbin.social 11 months ago
Wat? If they managed to register with WhatsApp, they can do so with literally any other messaging service.
neblem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah that’s a big problem that I’m trying to research solutions for myself too. It was way better when I could tell people to just install Signal and it’d replace their SMS app but be secure when others use it, but unfortunately Signal dropped SMS. Currently I just have all the apps, but since Signal does contact discovery (like Whatsapp) I follow a Signal, Whatsapp, FB Messenger, RCS (via Google Messenger), then SMS pattern and stopping when I can contact someone. Obviously, this has the issue that all these apps are getting far more data than they need and I’d like to look into a multiplatform app that does e2e. From what I’ve researched so far, Matrix bridges (servers that connect your Matrix account to a third party messaging service) might be the answer.
I haven’t tried it yet but there is a Matrix bridge that you can host if you are selfhosting a Matrix server (or use a commercial Matrix provider that already hosts it) that will allow you to connect to your Whatsapp friends without needing Whatsapp that could be interesting for at least that use case docs.mau.fi/bridges/go/setup.html?bridge=whatsapp .
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Using Signal is incredibly easy. Unless your friends are too incompetent to even install an app, they can be set up in a couple of minutes.
Notice I said using and not switching, because there’s no need to pick just one.
Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 11 months ago
They are incompetent enough. They also see no reason to switch. They will tell you that other apps will also use your data and that Whatsapp is working fine for what they do with it. Some even use the status to share stuff like Instagram.
They’ll tell you that there’s no point in installing two apps. I’ve had that topic often enough.
askdocsthrowaway96@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You underestimate how tech-dumb the majority of people are
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
A few years ago I thought so as well, but today, everyone of my friends and family is on Signal. Also, it’s not complicated to use, it’s basically the exact same user experience as on WhatsApp or Telegram. If normies can figure out WhatsApp, they can figure out Signal.