Video Just has fundamentally different hosting cost for processing and bandwidth. Amongst the big streaming providers only Netflix makes a profit. Twitch is not profitable, either.
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spudwart@spudwart.com 11 months ago
If only peertube had the same culture as Lemmy and Mastodon.
But it feels like, imo, Peertube has fallen to the same pitfalls as other YouTube alternatives. 99% of vids I see on Peertube instances are far-right conspiracy theory videos among other obviously abhorrent content that would otherwise be banned on youtube.
cucumber_sandwich@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Rodeo@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I just want to point out that a corporation not making a profit doesn’t mean they’re not making money. It means they’ve spent the money on something and then in the accounting they can call it an expense instead of profit. But they still made that money and they still have something to show for it.
gardner@lemmy.nz 11 months ago
That’s revenue, not profit.
Rodeo@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Revenue only becomes profit if you let it.
Got $1m in revenue that you don’t want to declare as profit? Purchase some assets and now you have $1m expense instead.
cucumber_sandwich@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, sure. Doesn’t change the other point
Rodeo@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I guess what I’m saying is that although your first point is true, your second point doesn’t actually support it.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
the peertube instance im on seems to be not allowg vids
grozzle@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Nebula.tv has lots of excellent videos, a healthy community of creators, a sustainable business model, a lot of good communication between subscribers and management, and I believe is not in financial trouble so far. It’s not free, but it’s affordable.
thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
As a former Nebula subscriber, here’s my hot take: it also has no real community and no chance for exposure to the up-and-comer (IE no way to breakout since it seems invite only?)
I’ve found so many great YouTube channels filled with deep experience and expertise before they “catch on” (and some never “catch on”). The ability to find the small, powerful voice who’s just trying to share knowledge…
I’m not defending YouTube/Alphabet here (as a company they’re no better than any other), I just think Nebula isn’t a great alternative and unless things change, can never be. It’s a walled garden in too many ways (paywall/creator invitations).
In the year I had it I mostly watched the same videos on YouTube. If they were technical enough there was valuable discussion attached to the video; on Nebula that’s not the case and not possible. Even if it was possible I can’t imagine people fragmenting their discussion spaces between YouTube and closed-ecosystem like Nebula.
Don’t even get me started with their (Nebula) inability to build a video queue -> wasting time and space on a poorly thought-out implementation of Autoplay was a terrible decision that further pushed me off the platform.
It’s sad, I really wanted to like it. But I voted with my dollars and left.
grozzle@lemm.ee 11 months ago
(am the same person you replied to)
i actually don’t disagree much with your points. i still watch most of the videos posted on both platforms on youtube, not Nebula, tbh.
for me it’s mostly because Nebula haven’t made an official Kodi addon yet, and the unofficial one (by slyguy) often has buffering issues (which i don’t blame on slyguy).
i sometimes “fake watch” good videos again on the nebula website to help that creator boost their revenue share of my subscription. a very clumsy hack.
all that said - i am very glad that the videomakers i follow seem happy with Nebula, and since they say it’s helping them make better videos, i will continue to subscribe.
i don’t know about the ‘invite only’ thing. i have recommended in yt comments to a couple of people i often watch (Joe Blogs is one, i think also Our Own Devices, DiodeGoneWild, perhaps also Denys Davydof and/or Jake Broe) that they should ask about joining, but i assume my messages weren’t seen, in the depths of yt comments. as for if it’s easy for new creators to join, again don’t know for sure but there seem to be some regular Neb uploaders without much/any yt presence.
thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Thanks for engaging!
I should comment on my poorly phrased use of “invite only” -> I mean that from the creators’ perspective in case I fumbled that one. IE, I can’t just decide to share on Nebula, I have to be invited (seemingly by the creator personally? Ref: theverge.com/…/nebula-youtube-creator-business-fu…).