Comment on Another 62 ‘Girls Do Porn’ Victims Sue Pornhub for $600 Million

• _danny@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • disposabletentacle@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There's a ton of wholesome consensual adult-angled 2D stuff out there. Like a ton. The concept of hentai as all underage rape fantasy is a myth. Plus if I stumble across some unmoderated creepy stuff when I'm browsing new, I can just close it and move on without the burden of knowing I saw a real thing that happened to a real person.

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  • gentoo_biscuit@thelemmy.club ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sure there’s content out there that depicts nasty abuse. But if it’s animated, then it’s fiction.

    I feel like whether the content is enjoyable/good is a personal opinion and the fact that anyone thinks it’s wholesome enough or not is irrelevant.

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    • JoBo@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s a difficult area to research because it is impossible to know the direction of the causal arrow; predators may seek out the most violent porn, or sexual violence might be normalised by viewing it, and quite likely a bit of both. But you can’t just say that the production didn’t involve real people therefore no one is harmed.

      This is from an anti-porn site so clearly not neutral: Is There a Connection Between Violent Crime and Watching Porn?

      Very little of the evidence they cite tries to distinguish between violent porn and any porn but there are some snippets worth taking seriously [numbers in brackets are the references]:

      Not surprisingly, the more violent the porn they consume, the more likely they will be to support violence and act out violently. [18] In fact, one study found that those with higher exposure to violent porn were six times more likely to have raped someone than those who had low past exposure. [19]

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      A large portion of the porn consumed by millions of people every day is reinforcing the message that humiliation and violence are normal parts of what sex is supposed to be. [20] It’s wiring the minds and expectations of the upcoming generation, making it harder for many young people to prepare for loving, nurturing relationships [21] and leaving both women and men feeling like they can’t express the pain it’s causing them. [22]

      I don’t have the answer. I am not against porn in general. I am obviously against porn where performers have been coerced or mistreated (most of it, tbf) and I do think it is healthier to seek out porn which is explicitly consensual.

      Men who are interested in having real, consensual sex could probably do themselves a lot of favours by seeking out female porn directors who are making woman-friendly porn. And, given the link between watching sexual violence and doing sexual violence, whatever the direction of the causal arrow, if you don’t want to be that guy avoiding violent porn is probably a good idea.

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• Tick_Dracy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You don’t know if someone is being held hostage in a basement, and being threat to death in order to draw some pictures, while being whipped whenever they fail to meet the daily quota. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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• DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Drawing shotacon, as Zeus intended.

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