Comment on Robin Williams' daughter Zelda says AI recreations of her dad are 'personally disturbing'

• scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You tend to consent to a photo or video

  I’m not sure what you mean. There’s nothing more consensual about photography necessarily. Paparazzi are a thing, for example.

  I think the real difference here is that we understand video and audio recordings, we even have some laws governing when you can record someone. So we are comfortable with those technologies. Above all, we’re used to them.

  AI isn’t the exact same thing but I think the main source of discomfort is its newness and mysteriousness. We don’t have laws governing it. We don’t understand it very well. This makes it creepy.

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  • Julius_Seizures@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think consent is the most important discussion here. The people that continue to profit (monetarily or otherwise) off dead creators are often looked down upon, eg. Brian Herbert’s Dune continuation, Stephen Hillenberg’s death and continuation of spongebob (and it’s spin offs), etc. Terry Pratchett had in his will to use a steamroller to destroy all his unfinished works as he knew if not they would likely be used to profit after his death without him.

    I’m a proponent of the recent advances in machine learning, I use machine learning in my field and I write and use models for hobby level things. I’m also fully a proponent of using these things ethically, and consent here is the most important thing.

    If I created a doctored photograph of Robin Williams (even doing something innocuous) that was clearly not something he did and plastered it around the internet it would be in bad taste. If Robin Williams consented to people doing that then sure whatever its nbd. Photographs and recordings should be used with consent, and things like the paparazzi taking non consensual photos are not looked upon as particularly ethical endeavors.

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  • UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m referirng to the premise of photos of loved ones… I dont agree with pap style photography. You’re refering to the uncanny valley in the second part.

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    • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Let’s say one of your parents dies and years later you stumble upon a voice recording that your sibling made of them. Your heart would probably be warmed just to hear their voice. It wouldn’t change that if you realized that your brother had recorded them from behind without their knowledge. You’d still be comfortable with that representation of your father.

      Another example: there are services which can take an old photo of a dead relative and turn it into a sort of “Harry Potter moving picture” kind of deal, using deepfake technology. Most people are amazed and touched in a positive way when they see these.

      I think someday when AI is much more mundane to us, someone out there will take old voice recordings of their long lost father, train an AI bot on them, and present it as a gift to their sibling. That sibling will have a conversation with it, and their eye will mist up, and they’ll say thank you this is so touching and wonderful.

      It’s merely a question of being comfortable with the technology itself.

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      • UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I’ve already answered this. 🤦‍♂️ The AI in quetion isnt being used for memories. Money.

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