Hm… But different distros have different philosophies (not just) about updates. That’s part of why people choose a specific distro.

Theres still plenty speaking against flatpak (larger sizes, problems with GTK/qt themes, and it’s only meant for GUI applications - you still need a separate system for the kernel and lower-level/cli tools. And frankly, that makes flatpak unusable to me, because the purpose of a centralized package management system is not having duplicate systems).

So in short: y’all are gonna pry pacman from my cold, dead hand.