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Mucki@feddit.org 1 week agoThe whole AI scam has always been the techbro CEOs snatching the money from the non-techbro CEOs. Me or you as a private person was never the direct aim. . . . General artificial intelligence will not come. We don’t even have artificial intelligence yet. The terms artificial and intelligence contradict themselves. It’s an oxymoron. It’s still just machines that learn shit without body and soul…
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
IDK. I get really uneasy about claims that a computer or AI can never be intelligent or self-aware. Sure, it’s “just” circuits, but your brain is “just” cells passing information between each other. An individual cell is no more intelligent or self-aware than an individual transistor is. It’s deeply unscientific to believe there is some magic voodoo involved in biology that can’t be reproduced in a machine.
expr@piefed.social 1 week ago
I have never argued that it is never possible, just like time travel or teleportation is technically possible given a radical breakthrough in our understanding of how the universe works. But as of right now, AGI/true intelligence/etc. is still purely science fiction and LLMs are not even remotely close (and are a complete deadend towards that goal).
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Except it’s not comparable because we literally have general/true intelligence right now… it’s just not artificial. There is no radical breakthrough needed. We know it’s possible. We just don’t know how.
Teleportation is not possible as far as we know, and backwards time travel isn’t either. That’s not comparable to true intelligence, which already exists, just not artificially.
expr@piefed.social 1 week ago
We are far from knowing that true intelligence is possible with the computing paradigm as we know it, and indeed, if it’s even possible to do outside of biological systems. So it does require a revolutionary breakthrough in computer science and/or computer engineering.
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Exactly. We are beings of atoms and matter. If you want to believe in some immaterial soul, fine. But if you’re a materialist, then everything we are is atoms. We know atoms in one configuration can produce true intelligence. And there are likely many possible arrangements of atoms that can reproduce this effect. And since artificial minds are not subject to most of the constraints of biological minds, an artificial superhuman intelligence should be possible. Hell, even if biology was the only way to make it possible, you could always build an artificial biological brain and just make it a lot bigger than a human one. Even if human neurology really is the limit of what this universe allows for in terms of intelligence, we could best it by just making a bigger one.
Mucki@feddit.org 1 week ago
Not going to fight about it. Sorry gotta go, to replace some transistors in the back of my head.
vanillama@programming.dev 1 week ago
I think at some point we might get better and better at simulating intelligence, and maybe even building actual intelligence in machines, but we can agree that LLMs is closer to your phone suggesting the next word than it is to your brain. If we ever get general AI it can’t be based off LLMs so the current wave of speculation is little more than hype to drive profits up and distract from the problems that already arose.