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Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• cosmicrookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I may live in a country that doesn’t do this but I’ve never seen a parking lot with a shelter. If there is, it is used to park cars in top.

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  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Theres a different type for cars.

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    • cosmicrookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yeah we don’t have many of these either here 🤷

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      • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Same back home. I am constantly thinking about how much of the cities and towns would need to be leveled to park the number of 2-wheelers I see if everyone drove cars; this tiny cafe would need 7-10,000 sqft for just the 20 bikes here now, and the parking area is half full, and then there’s parking across the street.

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• Tiresia@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  They also don’t factor in the greenwashing of using solar panels to cover wasteful cars, when it would be much better for the environment to not have a parking lot to put solar panels over.

  It sucks that for the past 50-100 years, places have been built somewhere on the scale between favoring cars to outright hostile to any other form of transportation. On the plus side, most of these places are so shoddily built that it is cheaper to tear them down than to maintain them. So destroying suburbia and replacing it with walkable neighborhoods is actually quite profitable for everyone except the car industry, not to mention beneficial for everyone living there.

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We’re not getting rid of parking lots at e.g. hospitals any time soon, and big unshaded parking lots are fucking miserable environments.

    Sure, we shouldn’t put solar panels above most parking lots, but they’re utterly obvious for the aforementioned situations.

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    • Tiresia@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Why the fuck would you want a parking lot at a hospital? Imagine surrounding a place where every second matters and where tons of people have physical disabilities with a massive field of useless metallic obstacles that everyone has to move around and can get murdered by. Can you imagine someone who needs to be driven having to walk all the way across a parking lot because the spots closer by are all full. Can you imagine being blind or old or anything else that makes you unsuitable for driving but perfectly capable of taking public transit and having to ask someone for help and cross a fucking parking lot to get medical care?

      Or… Imagine instead if the default way of going to a hospital was to take the subway, with a level boarding station right beneath the hospital with elevators that can take you immediately to the right department. And in the rare cases that someone needs to be driven to a hospital, the taxi or ambulance doesn’t need to dodge the hundreds of people who were perfectly capable of walking or the giant metal boxes they leave behind.

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  • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I don’t think suburbia even needs to be destroyed and left fallow; anything with a motor smaller than a car works fine with car infrastructure, as long as there’s not shittons of cars. It can just be densified by building regular parks or buildings where the parking lots were if the use of cars were restricted. My current motorbike gets 100mpg, my old one 160, and there’s some electrics I’ve seen that easily keep up with traffic.

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    • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Unfortunately, and I learned this relatively recently, motorcycles are worse for GHG emissions than cars because of catalytic converters (and probably just better combustion in general).

      Agreed on electric, though.

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      • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Euro 3 went into effect in 2007, nearly all bikes made in the last 20 years have cats.

        As far as combustion goes, there’s way more variability between a nc750 revving to 6500, a Ducati reving to 16500, and a Honda Wave with 110ccs displacement. You can probably get a lot of answers.

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