Comment on Someone Forked Systemd to Strip Out Its Age Verification Support

Dathknight@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• nuxi@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They should also remove the phone number prompt that UNIX has had since before systemd even existed. Your phobe number is an optional part of the GECOS field and has been there for a very long time without anyone freaking out like this.

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• Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As far as I can tell the Name Email and location are all voluntarily provided by the user.

  This is something that will be used whether you want it to or not (that makes it invasive) because of the laws around it (of course depending on where you are).

  Having fields I can ignore as a user isn’t the same as this guided attempt by lawmakers to eventually get you to give ID and retina scans just to use a computer.

  This is step 1. That is why people are freaking out about it.

  And I know systemd isn’t doing this out of spite, but I do wish the scene would stand up for the user more… Just say no California or whatever other shit place decides to enact that and boom problem solved. Not their fault or problem anymore.

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  • themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think these laws will be similar to prohibition. They will try for a while, but then realize they can’t succeed. Governments can’t even handle cyber security, how will they handle this?

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    • reddit_sux@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      These laws are made by corporation like FB who wish to shift the blame away from itself for their transgressions. Australian and EU laws are banning social media for pre teens and kids. So instead of them developing ways to follow that law they are shifting that onus on to the operating system.

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    • Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think you underestimate the technology they have now especially in relation to an event that happened in the 1940’s.

      Its like the Stasi but ten thousand times more sophisticated and every bit as motivated.

      Maybe even more motivated, because it generates money for them when they have businesses do it (Palantir) and provides “value” to the markets. Because money and control is absolutely all they care about (in the USA)

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      • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Technologically, yes, they could easily identify non-compliance with how much data is being collected these days

        Logistically though? How are they going to enforce this? Sue every open source project that circumvents this? Block downloads of it with a great firewall? Fine end users? It’s just not feasible

        Realistically, they’re going to go after the OSes with the biggest market share. Google, Microsoft, and Apple will be forced to comply on new devices, and maybe they’ll try to make an example or two to get compliance in advance

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• metakrakalaka@lemmychan.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Instead of fighting the laws and the people behind it

  We can’t use the system to change the system.

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