Comment on Cyberattack on vehicle breathalyzer company leaves drivers stranded across the US

• Archr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not sure that I would really agree that these are backdoor. Since disabling the vehicle remotely is kinda the express intention of this device. Just a consequence of how they designed them to not be circumvented by the operator.

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  • Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why is remote access the intention? Should the device not verify the alchohol % locally and then mechanically allow the car to star or not? What part of that needs any form of remote oversight?

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    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Probably the part where keeping everything local would allow the driver to easily bypass the device. Splice a few wires, and boom. But if it is doing some off-site verification, they’ll be able to immediately know if the device is disabled. Similarly, they could do things like monitor the car’s location in real time, and have it throw up a red flag if the car is moving but the driver hasn’t performed a test. That would be a sign of tampering.

      It also allows them to know if the driver fails the test, which is important for probation/parole reasons, where not drinking is often a condition of release. So if they fail the test, it should automatically alert their supervising officer. Can’t do that if it’s all local.

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      • KotFlinte@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah I don’t know, that’s a whole bunch of unnecessary surveillance.

        Make the device work locally, make it in any way tamper resistant and mandate a yearly check up at a certified autoshop.

        The solution to problems does not have to be “control every possible thing at all times”.

        People deserve not to be monitored around the clock.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Since disabling the vehicle remotely is kinda the express intention of this device

    Uhhh nope, there’s no reason for a remote connection.

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    • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Interlocks are for people who have had a DUI, by your logic ankle monitors should not be able to be accessed remotely.

      Don’t break the law If you don’t want to be monitored by the state.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Interlocks are for people who have had a DUI

        Yes I am actually aware, thanks.

        ankle monitors should not be able to be accessed remotely.

        Ankle monitors monitor location. Interlock devices monitor intoxication levels, and locally send a signal to the vehicle about whether it’s ok to drive. The difference should be obvious.

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      • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Spoken like someone never targeted by LE.

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    • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Of course I am?

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  • unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean, if someone is responsible enough to brethalyze themselves, they should also be responsible enough to not drive. Hooking the brethalyzer up to the car to disable it seems like a terrible idea.

    Deoending on the way it’s implemented, a bad one could brick a car for hours if someone drunk tries it, but there are perfectly sober people who could drive. Or y’know, this shit with someone coming on and remotely disabling things all willy-nilly.

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    • Archr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But. That’s the point. If no one breath tests then the car does not start. Hence it being an ignition interlock device. The whole point of the device is to stop drunk people from driving. If there is a sober person then obviously the drunk person should not do the test since that would lock the car.

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