Comment on YSK: The CIA proposed a 9/11 style false flag attack on US citizens to justify invading Cuba
HubertManne@piefed.social 5 days agothis is on the voters. Oh no. They have so much money. I can’t resist voting for them. I mean while I can be mad that other folks don’t vote well and I agree we need to get money out of the sytem, I still live in a democracy where ballots are cast and counted and adjudicated fairly. I have been an observer which is not hard to do. Civic organizations, parties, and canidates are generally desperate for them as it takes time. That and being an election judge is an amazing experience and a good way to understand the election process.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 5 days ago
It doesn’t really matter whose fault it is, though, the fact is that most people are completely unengaged with politics, so it doesn’t matter how progressive your candidates are, the capitalists can just flood the zone and manipulate those voters into voting against their own interests.
Electoralism simply isn’t a magic solution to our problems. Of course those who can should use every tool we have to try and shift the needle, but the system is rigged against us, we need to work on dismantling the system from outside it, as well as from within. Protest and elect, with an emphasis on protest. We need to build a real worker led movement.
HubertManne@piefed.social 5 days ago
yeah see im not cool with any system done so far in human history other than democracy. Im fine changing how we vote and such but this comes to close to well the real problem is democracy.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 5 days ago
How much do you know about anarchism?
HubertManne@piefed.social 5 days ago
yeah democracy can fall but its what I want and willing to go with. Certainly I would love to be able to setup the rules just based on my thinking but unfortunately the only legitimate framework document you can have has to be determined democratically to. You know they should have made a requirement that the populace has to renew the constitution every 20 years.