Holy fuck you nerds will fund ANYTHING to screech about.
Comment on New Steam Beta can run the Linux client inside a container with 64bit
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s 2026. An experimental version of Steam’s runtime container – a very normal thing for your software to have – is now 64-bit. This is worthy of praise somehow for a multibillion-dollar corporation whose only real job is to do bare minimum maintenance of its storefront and rake in 30% of profits from its monopoly.
Glad to know where the bar is.
Retail4068@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
There’s gonna be people who don’t know why containers break iso27002 and think they’re the bees knees just lashing out for this affront to their favourite toy, dude. Hunker down.
warmaster@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Name another gaming company that has been as good and influential.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Are you butthurt that I called it a monopoly because it is one? Its status as a “benevolent monopoly” doesn’t make it not a monopoly; its competitors’ incompetence doesn’t make it not a monopoly; competition existing doesn’t make it not a monopoly; that it’s not an illegal monopoly doesn’t make it not a monopoly.
Its incredibly stable market share, which is deeply entrenched because you don’t own the games you buy there and can’t bring them elsewhere.
The point of pointing out that Valve is a monopoly is that they have functionally no real competition to worry about; they have all the leeway in the world to improve their client, so I’m not going to clap like a seal when the container for the software gets 64-bit support in the year of our lord 2026.
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That’s not really Valve’s fault: Tell the other companies to suck less! All the other services are fucking terrible by comparison, GOG is the only one that comes close.
grue@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
👆Why are you booing him? He’s right!
I mean, good for Valve for finally making progress on 64-bit, but it really is kinda absurd that it’s taken this long.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What an incredibly weird complaint
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That it’s weird for Valve’s client to be running inside a container?
My other software isn’t containerized that I know of. I don’t run Firefox in Docker.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why the fuck is it weird for a client to run inside a runtime environment with well-defined library versions, when that client has to ship that runtime environment anyways to ensure the games can actually run on a broad range of systems?
Oh, sure, it’s so much better if the client relies on system libraries instead. Yes please, I like incompatibilities and issues with debugging. So much better than loading a different set of libraries. Stupid Valve!
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Alright, let’s just say it’s perfectly fine because of the problem Valve creates by making you open Steam when you play games. It’s just 64-bit for the runtime, not even the client itself. It’s 2026. I’m not going to act like this is an accomplishment.
9point6@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Funnily enough, people running in Ubuntu do get Firefox in a container by default IIRC as it’s delivered as a snap
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You recall correctly. It’s another one of Canonical’s attempts to shoehorn their trash.
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I run most of my software in containers. Firefox is in a flatpak. My terminal shells are all containers using distrobox. My homelab services are all containers. My few VMs (i run a few vituralized rke2 clusters, sometimes a test version of my baremetal harvester cluster, and test versions of my desktops)? Also running in containers. My desktop OSs are also containers (ublue, SteamOS, and SUSE Elemental).
The future is now old man! :p
But honestly linux namespaces and overlay filesystems are the bees knees. Create reusable layers of filesystems, use just the ones needed for a given app/service. Expose just what a service or app needs to for a given function. You end up with an extemly portable, and consistent system that has cleaner seperations of concerns. For basically free. From an app dev perspective you remove a whole matrix of supported configurations to worry about (distro/version/packages installed/etc).