It looks like a glorified ‘developer mode’ switch that has the 1 day wait to prevent someone from grabbing your phone, turning on sideloading, installing some hazardous app, and then having their way with your info. This appears to be the best of both worlds.
Like when unlocking your bootloader wiped your info. Just do it first. not a year in to using your device, if thats your plan.
Sure. Because as we know people grabbing your unlocked phone to sideload apps onto it is an almost daily occurrence. Which of us hasn’t had a stranger install a cryto miner while we looked away for a second.
Get real. This is an imaginary problem affecting the 0.01% they are using to tell you this action is justifiable. Getting more control is the aim of their game
Lmfao. I’ll invent a better way and it will only take me negative 50 years.
Passcode.
There is absolutely nothing positive about this. It is only nefarious, full stop. I could open a million dollar restaurant that served microwaved cat shit, but on the menu it’s called “Tbone Steak” and with your logic, people wouldn’t notice the difference.
Okay, pump the breaks a second.
I agree a day wait is bullshit, but you think a passcode is enough to keep someone from… anything? You can shoulder surf a passcode in no time at all. Hell, it’s not even difficult. Go to a bar, talk someone up, give a legit reason to use someone’s phone, intentionally lock and force a passcode and 99% of people at bars will put their pin in within eyesight, or tell you the code.
A passcode isn’t as big a deterrent as most people seem to think it is. It’ll keep you out of an unattended phone you found, but there are plenty of ways to socially engineer your way into having it for the vast majority of targets.
And yes, you likely wouldn’t give your passcode out. But this is how a number of ne’er-do-wells got unfettered access to hundreds of iPhones, and prompted Apple to put a semi similar 24 hour lock on certain security actions if you aren’t in a “known to the phone” location (somewhere you frequent like home or work).
When you couple what you just said with what they’re trying to do, your own argument can be made in my favor.
One of my hobbies in college was shoulder surfing classmates passwords just to repeat it back to them later in the day. Though on a phone you have far fewer reasons to type in an associated accounts password.
Never tell anyone else this again, and stop doing it. What an insane invasion of privacy.
My security should be my choice on my device end of story. My password/passcode plus encryption with easily accessible ways to put it into lockdown mode and have lockdown mode on a continuous timer is absolutely enough for my threat model.
I don’t need any else making any addition call on it, and I definitely don’t need someone that is willingly bragging about invading others privacy coaching me on what these companies are intending while actively trying to take my right to privacy away.
An option for full password on every cold boot with pin for subsequent unlocks would strengthen security without removing user freedom.
You call it an invasion of privacy, I call it fucking with friends while teaching them to be cognizant of who is watching what they do.
I’m also not sure how “the average person treats their passcodes and passwords like everyone is intentionally looking away” somehow strengthens “lock making the phone less secure behind a passcode” as an argument.
And yes, it 100% lowers the security of the phone. Which absolutely is your choice. Which I also do, and have done with my wife and kids phones. But the idea that a passcode is somehow a solution is just silly.
Not as silly as a 24 hour wait controlled by google, but still silly.
Other people not knowing how to secure their devices is not an excuse for my device that I own to block me from using it the way I want to.
That isn’t at all what I said.
I’m explicitly arguing that a passcode is useless for this kind of situation.
Oh yeah, because those guys seriously can’t wait a day
This has nothing to do with security
When has your imaginary scenario ever been a problem? Can you name a single example where that has happenned? Stop making excuses for corporations fucking over their users.
So this feature is disabled if you have a pin?
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
If they’re already into your phone there’s so many legitimate ways to extract your data. The ability to sideload an app won’t impact that.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Technically installing an app allows continuous spying instead of one-time offloading. It’s an actual consideration with spyware like Pegasus: it might’ve been used as a bug to listen to offline conversations.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The OS is the spyware, they’re ensuring you cannot remove it.
njordomir@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
10 years ago I would have called that a stretch. After Windows 11, there is no doubt that Windows is spyware.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
What % of users side load apps vs what % of users had someone else install a bug on their phone?
It’s a situation that statistically doesn’t happen, and now every legitimate user is being inconvenienced to stop it? This if like agree verification laws being sold as “protecting children” as an excuse to spy on and control people.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh really, so the Pegasus attacks on Galina Timchenko and dozens of other people, including Jamal Khashoggi, never happened?
Google could’ve implemented better measures to circumvent bugging, like iPhones’ ‘lockdown’ mode, but claiming that infecting with spyware never happens on Android is plain disingenuous and idiotic.