No I can’t find any papers easily on that subject. So show me.
I bet you can’t find sources at all either.
Comment on Human experimentation, one way or the other.
b0ber@lemmy.world 8 hours agoI’m sure you can find some papers easily, I haven’t looked into it in years but just from memory there are a few vectors from which problems can arise. The immune system produces antibodies and is responsible for ensuring that they are properly reactive. If this system becomes overactivated, some antibodies may slip through and target the own body, potentially leading to an autoimmune response. We also know that breastfeeding can transfer antibodies from mother to baby. Another consideration is the stability of mRNA production from fetal stem cells. In previous experiments, this process has often been unreliable or unstable. Also the virus mutates much more rapidly than many others, so priming the immune system against a specific variant may reduce its effectiveness against other variants or different viruses.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
b0ber@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
www.bmj.com/content/384/bmj.q488
med.stanford.edu/…/myocarditis-vaccine-covid.html
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10108562/
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9206826/
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10022421/
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33866000/
nationalacademies.org/…/new-comprehensive-review-…
www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-2956
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9021367/
www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0264410X22010283 www.frontiersin.org/journals/medicine/…/full
fishy@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
Listen pal, nobody is going to sift through a dozen research articles you dump without any citation.
But just a cursory scan of the first article says .78/1000000 cases have the mentioned side effect and 1.2/1000000 have the other side effect. COVID mortality rate is something like 350x higher lol.
yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Sorry but no, this is not how it works. You claim things, you show proof of things. I don’t look it up for you. Provide sources.
b0ber@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Here’s a few: www.bmj.com/content/384/bmj.q488 med.stanford.edu/…/myocarditis-vaccine-covid.html pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10108562/ pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9206826/ pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10022421/ pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33866000/ nationalacademies.org/…/new-comprehensive-review-… www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-2956 pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9021367/ www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0264410X22010283 www.frontiersin.org/journals/medicine/…/full
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7944975/ If not mistaken this study used by Pfizer to support its vaccine global safety, was conducted in Israel using data from Clalit Health Services. The methodology was flawed: Pfizer sponsored the study, the lead researcher had ties to the company, and there was no proper system to track side effects (unlike the U.S. VAERS system)
yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
OK so… Here we are talking about myocarditis (at least in the first 2 articles listed), which is definitely not what you talked about in your first comment.
In the article you mentioned, I quote
So the vaccine has a small chance to provoke myocarditis (with very fast recovery) and not taking the vaccine has a much higher chance of provoking the same effects plus others much worse, including death.
Then, you list another article about possible autoimmune diseases induced by the vaccine. Again, not your intial topic. I’ll quote the authors:
Yeah. I won’t go through all the list, but we get the picture. Nobody’s saying to get vaccinated for fun. Every single sane person should definately be curious of mass vaccination campaigns. But it is important to carefully read studies and not jump to conclusions, be them in favour or against what we believe.