Comment on How possibly?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 day ago
White guys make up a large chunk of the population. There are white guys that have some of the same problems that are harming minorities as well. Poverty, addiction, mental and physical health, inflation, an unfavorable jobs market, and so on.
They see a democratic party that is at best useless at addressing these problems, when they admit that they exist at all. At worst, they see a party that is dismissive and hostile to these concerns, and to them personally. In contrast, they see a republican party that is full of welcoming con artists who will happily tell them that all their problems spring from minorities.
Neither side is offering actual solutions, but republicans are acknowledging that the problems exist, even if they’re offering false solutions.
svullo56@feddit.nu 1 day ago
In a society where white men are favored they still have that. Which isn’t a small thing! They will probably always win if put up against women or people of color when looking for jobs.
A bet a lot of the minorities would prefer to be a white man to have it easier in life.
Kind of ironic saying they have nothing and then automatically being accepted in the fine boys club which fight for their kinds right to stay in a superior place in society.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The problems I listed all disproportionately impact minorities, and addressing them will disproportionately benefit minorities. Failing to address them out of spite for white men disproportionately harms minorities. But hey, you sure showed those white men that you’re willing to harm minorities to get to them.
If you want white men to stop following con artists, you need to credibly solve problems that they’re facing, or they’ll believe the first con artist that comes along that wants them to blame minorities for their problems, which adds fuel to existing oppression.
Yeah, probably. They have it worse off and I never said otherwise. Thing is, what democrats usually do in this situation isn’t to solve the actual problems. It’s to look at the bigoted false solutions offered by republican con artists and put forth watered down versions of those, breaking solidarity with minorities in the process. What this doesn’t do is peel off the votes of white men who have been suckered by con artists. You can’t beat false solutions with a lesser version of the same false solution.
I’m saying that democrats are leaving votes on the table that they could get if they wanted them, without throwing minorities under the bus like they’ve been doing.
svullo56@feddit.nu 1 day ago
Well I’ve never said that one should punish white men out of spite. Those are your words.
But again. Kinda ironic that the way for minorities to get it better is to make sure poor white men have it better first. Isn’t this the problem tho?
I don’t care about democrats or republicans. That system is flawed to the core. It’s built to keep this power balance who ever you decide to vote for. Or to be honest, don’t vote at all because it’s rigged for people to not be able to vote.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Who said anything about first? If you make things better for minorities by addressing problems that disproportionately harm them, some white men will also see their problems solved.
You’d rather solve nothing in case help goes to people you want to punish.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Yeah but let’s be real here, being wealthy and white will get you a lot farther than being poor and white.
axus@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I’ve never met anyone, online or IRL, that wanted to transition to white
Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t think racially transitioning is a thing regardless