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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?

He took a fascist turn during Trump 1 and never really recovered his image. Got into a bunch of weird exploitative shit, not unlike Mr Beast. The most notable being when he tested the Fiverr service and paid five dollars to get Indian freelance actors to laugh and show a sign saying ‘Death to all Jews’.

After that, he started getting deplatformed and his following fell off considerably. So, like a bunch of other has-been YouTube starlets, he decided to get even more edgy and reactionary, further poisoning his image. It’s the same death spiral Russell Brand and Rob Schneider took.

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lastweakness@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Damn, WSJ really succeeded in their campaign

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- Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah I’m certainly not going to claim to be an avid or long time watcher of pewdiepie but… No he didn’t? The fiverr thing happened, sure. But the rest of that is wild conjecture and misinformation.
  
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- Smaile@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  no its just virtue signalers and keyboard warriors remembering hed did a bad thing that one time on the bridge and assumed hes a Nazi now.
  
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  - UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    hed did a bad thing that one time
    
    Far more than the one time. He had a whole routine about exploiting overseas labor to perform humiliating stunts.
    
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    Smaile@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Nah I’m not going to take a lecturing, each ‘incident’ can v easily have been explained, it’s why a lot of people on this page aren’t taking you guys seriously, your type are to tightly wound up
    
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orgrinrt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Not to defend them or completely dismiss their part in all that, pretty sure it was just someone else sending the fiverr video to them and them opening it while streaming. But the latter incident, where they shouted some slurs on air while playing some game, that’s I think more inexcusable. But I always got the expression they never were actual nazi or far right despite the subject matter of the incidents, it’s more just them being an idiot and trying to be funny and edgy for content and missing the target entirely on a couple of occasions. I think the aftermath speaks for itself, they did some reflecting and ended up changing the formula and content type entirely, and we are now seeing the fruits of that effort.

I don’t mean to belittle the shit they’ve pulled, but I also don’t want to paint anyone irredeemable, even less when they actually manage to do introspection and change. We should encourage that and highlight that instead. I’d reserve the unconditional hate and spite for those that deserve it, that don’t change, don’t reflect, perhaps actually mean the things they do and say, with passion.

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- Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Sorry, but something I’ve had to learn with time is that it really doesn’t matter who’s operating the gas chamber, if their actions rely on hundreds of other people openly saying “Death to all jews”. There’s no importance to whether those people would ever pull the lever themselves. The language is what’s important, not how much they were “only joking”. Both an ultra-racist and an edgy teen in their late 20s are just “trying to get away with it” and don’t care who they hurt.
  
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- JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Is bigotry for clout not somehow worse than at least holding a bigoted conviction?
  
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manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The nazi who shot and killed 51 Muslim worshipers in Christchurch in 2017, shouted ‘subscribe to pewdiepie’ at the start of his live streamed rampage

you’ll have to excuse me if I never let that go

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Logical@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t really see the things he did and said (he didn’t AFAIK actually make that fiverr order btw) as taking “a fascist turn”. Not excusing him using slurs on stream or his weird dogwhistles to fascists during that period, though, he certainly did and said things he should not have. But I think there’s a difference between farming edgy meme culture, in an insensitive way, for views, and actually espousing fascist views and trying to convert people to them. I might be missing something, and I’m under no illusion that the guy is some perfectly kind and humble person, but I think he’s more than made up for his prior mistakes as a public figure, with what he’s doing as a public figure now. It’s quite clear he’s no longer in the cancerous influencer rat race, and hasn’t been for some time.

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