I highly reccomend searching what DLSS is, how it is used, if you’ve never seen it before.
DLSS 4.5 and before was a “transformer model” that used the pixels from your screen to predict what the surrounding pixels would be, allowing you to view games in higher resolution than your settings. Some people have shown it running a game at 512 pixels and it appear nearly identical to 1920, but with improved framerate. It struggled with motion in a lot of cases but what you were seeing was what the game developers intended for you to see.
DLSS 5 is not doing that, clearly. It’s pulling from something else for reference, some other kind of neural network or language model. The most common critique I hear about it is that it’s “overriding the art” by replacing everything with slop the likes of which you see from other bullshit AI.
I hate videos for information like that. I’d read an article though.
But from your description, DLSS <5 was genAI - transformer models are the backbone of genAI. There’s certainly the possibility that DLSS 5 is a whole other bucket of crabs but idk.
It’s a very visual topic so using a visual medium to learn about it is ideal.
Again, I feel like it’s disingenuous to compare using pixels to predict local pixels accurate to simply using a higher resolution, to generating an entirely different image every frame. One of them sounds no different than using certain filters or post process, the other sounds like slop ass AI.
The problem stems from the term ‘GenAI’. These systems use math to predict things. There are a lot of valid mathmatical calculations to predict out there. Rendering lighting is one of them.
Human language and imagery isn’t one of them, which is what idiots have been trying to funnel through these models.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 months ago
I highly reccomend searching what DLSS is, how it is used, if you’ve never seen it before.
DLSS 4.5 and before was a “transformer model” that used the pixels from your screen to predict what the surrounding pixels would be, allowing you to view games in higher resolution than your settings. Some people have shown it running a game at 512 pixels and it appear nearly identical to 1920, but with improved framerate. It struggled with motion in a lot of cases but what you were seeing was what the game developers intended for you to see.
DLSS 5 is not doing that, clearly. It’s pulling from something else for reference, some other kind of neural network or language model. The most common critique I hear about it is that it’s “overriding the art” by replacing everything with slop the likes of which you see from other bullshit AI.
FishFace@piefed.social 2 months ago
I hate videos for information like that. I’d read an article though.
But from your description, DLSS <5 was genAI - transformer models are the backbone of genAI. There’s certainly the possibility that DLSS 5 is a whole other bucket of crabs but idk.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 months ago
It’s a very visual topic so using a visual medium to learn about it is ideal.
Again, I feel like it’s disingenuous to compare using pixels to predict local pixels accurate to simply using a higher resolution, to generating an entirely different image every frame. One of them sounds no different than using certain filters or post process, the other sounds like slop ass AI.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The problem stems from the term ‘GenAI’. These systems use math to predict things. There are a lot of valid mathmatical calculations to predict out there. Rendering lighting is one of them.
Human language and imagery isn’t one of them, which is what idiots have been trying to funnel through these models.
FishFace@piefed.social 2 months ago
The effect looks like a filter or shader. I’ve seen the comparisons.
marcos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Generative AI is a name for some ways you can use AI, not for its architecture.
There’s space to discuss if DLSS is it or not. But your argument is baseless.
FishFace@piefed.social 2 months ago
The base for it is that it is generating pixels - and entire frames.
The difference between DLSS 5 and <5 seems quantitative, not qualitative.