Comment on We don’t have room in the carbon budget for a world war.

FaygoRedPop@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Transform2942@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The global empire of capital is trapped in two losing wars of attrition and keeps on desperately escalating in both cases?

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  • FaygoRedPop@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Transform2942@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honestly, I wrote my comment with a questioning tone because I wasn’t sure if your original comment was being sarcastic or something. I guess people don’t understand that this Iran war is much more serious than Vietnam and Afghanistan put together, on top of the Ukraine war still ongoing

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    • HeroHelck@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s a few of tracks leading to this actually. You got cracks in old alliances forming, a mostly failed attempt at revanchism from Russia and the USA getting it’s fingers stuck in a mouse trap, and many many more geopolitical factors that heighten tension between states. Then on another track, you have a worsening climate situation that is MUCH more serious than most western leaders are daring to admit, this ties back to the first as states will begin to take drastic efforts to control worsening conditions. Finally there has been a technological shift in a variety of ways, drones of course. Along that same vein, China has quietly been catching up to the US in terms of military tech, this isn’t as flashy but it is monumentous.

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  • Mika@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    USA is not with Ukraine, if you imply that. Trump is a russian asset and he did lift sanctions from russia just this week, alongside with ramping oil prices to the roof.

    Unless you assume that russia is losing the attrition war (which is very unlikely with @lemmy.ml), your comment doesn’t make any sense.

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    • Transform2942@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I do not have the patience to have this stupid fight today. Ukraine is definitely a US proxy. Every president since George W Bush has been eagerly promoting and escalating this war.

      The war in Iran has sealed Ukraine’s fate. All the cards they had left to play have now been neutralized. It doesn’t matter how much propaganda you believe about this war because it’s coming to a rapid conclusion

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      • ChristerMLB@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Alright, I’ll bite. How does the war with Iran “seal Ukraine’s fate”?

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• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  IMO WWIII started with the invasion of Ukraine.

  Now we have both US and Russia participating in war.

  If china takes Taiwan then you’ll have the big 3 which will effect pretty much all other countries one way or another.

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  • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s not a world war, it’s a handful of regional conflict level wars.

    A world war is defined by the scale and involvement level. The world wars reshaped continents and put most of the world on wartime production footing… We’re very, very far from that

    Taiwan had the ability to kick off a world war, because the whole world relies on TSMC. But the fabs being built in China, the US, and the EU seem to me to be a compromise between the power blocks - once they’re completed NATO will probably just let China invade Taiwan without lifting a finger

    WWIII isn’t a big concern of mine… The conditions just aren’t unfolding that way

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  • DarkMetatron@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But do 3 Independent Wars do count as a single world war?

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    • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If it affects the world in an unavoidable way, why wouldn’t it?

      Before WWI, a war halfway around the world didn’t affect you. Now it raises prices within a week of starting.

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      • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In the US, prices jump the day before any conflict actually starts…

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    • freebee@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are they independent? There are large coalitions, across various wars. And trade of all key resources and tech makes it all very connected to eachother and easy to get dragged in for many countries. Actively trying to stay a neutral country becomes harder and harder, we’re for sure heading in that direction.

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  • ChristerMLB@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Trump has taken the US as far out of the war in Ukraine as the American people will let him, it’s not great for peace, we should all have ramped up the aid a lot earlier, but to say that the US is participating in the war… that’s really stretching it.

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• then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Multiple brush fire wars which are starting to interlink, both wars starting to pull in other countries through alliances, countries forming up new alliances to protect themselves.

  This video explains well youtu.be/V--ZqMGjNVs

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