Comment on Is LM Studio's GUI safe despite being closed source?

Placid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Unless that’s backed up by a wireshark session demonstrating no data sent, or a reversing analysis that shows a lack of capability in the software, the policy is just words.

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  • someone@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Right, that’s what I’m saying. I don’t have the technical skill to check this out myself. Should I just delete it for now?

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    • bizarroland@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Okay, one, as many people use it, it seems like it would be fairly likely that they would be caught if they were doing something shady.

      Two, the program does not have access to anything other than the text conversations you are having with it, so it’s not like there’s an awful lot of PII that could be exfiltrated through the software.

      I would say that you are just as safe using LM Studio as you are using Ollama, at least for now.

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• someone@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  US Corporations that receive secret court orders are required by law to violate their privacy policies.

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  • Placid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sounds like you’re looking for a reason to not use this application.

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    • Paragone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Are you old enough to remember all the machiavellianisms committed by Microslop corp?

      As a relatively-recent example, their Windows Vista would secretly inform MS of all the search-queries done within windows.

      And … for some incomprehensible reason, that wasn’t prosecuted as a criminal offense.

      So, MS was being informed of things like …

      • hospital searching for “William Smith, bone cancer” & the search found the right file, & THAT kind of information was being forwarded back?

      • police searching for “Bob and Alice, classical physics violators”, & THAT kind of information would be forwarded back to MS?

      You don’t engineer-in machiavellianism like MS has done, for … it’s 40-years now? something like that … without making SOME people understand just how religious some corporations are, about being DarkTriad ( narcissism/machiavellianism/sociopathy-psychopathy ), in nature.

      & they aren’t the only ones.

      Nowadays, any corporation which violates DarkTriad … is considered … perhaps “mentally ill”, by market standards?

      I’m only using MS as an example.

      Remember when OpenOffice.org became the property of Oracle?

      LibreOffice.org was born in a week or 2?

      Cynicism absolutely is warranted, nowadays.

      I’m old-enough that MS’s stealing of Stac Electronics’ disk-compression algorithm, but they fucked-it-up, in their DOS 6.20 bit me.

      Assuming altruism on the part of some company … that is mental-illness, nowadays.

      I’m not agreeing with the assumption-river of the person you’re replying to, but I am saying that their reaction has basis/validity, nowadays.

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      I found out, after using LM Studio, that LLM’s can access everything on one’s own system.

      I don’t know to what degree that’s true with LM Studio, but 1 time I gave an internet-address, & the LLM told me what it had found on the site I just told it of.

      I hadn’t known it had unrestricted internet-access.

      Later, I learned it could probably read every file on my system, too, & some AI-attacks get the LLM to get info from people’s personal files, single-out the credit-card, address, contacts, etc, information, & have the LLM forward that to a server out there…

      That isn’t a security-concern that normals would even consider.

      NOW I know that if I ever fire-up my desktop again, I’ll have to rip-out the LLM’s from my normal user-account, & create a completely-separate locked-down account, with NOTHING ELSE in it, only for them.

      & keep EVERYTHING personal in a different account, that they can’t even see.

      That isn’t an LM Studio specific thing, that is apparently required for ALL the things.

      & nobody’s warning anybody about this?

      I think it was on The Register that I found that out, last year…

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    • someone@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Nope, I’m looking for a reason to keep using it when I hate closed-source software! It’s the exact opposite!

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