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MisterFrog@aussie.zone 1 week ago7000 new homes per week? No.
Clearly we must be, otherwise how would the number of houses per person be increasing…?
Something tells me the 7000 per week number isn’t correct or otherwise misconstrued. Please link to the relevant study or ABS data page. (There may be some confusion between net migration, and number of ARRIVALS per week, which includes tourists and other temporary visa holders)
they’re not for sale or rent so they’re irrelevant
You are not owes someone else giving you their house to live in. If they choose to buy it and keep it empty that’s up to them, and they shouldn’t be forced to do otherwise. Thinking they should is just jealousy.
Sorry, but I think this take isn’t sensible. We regulate a lot of our society. We don’t let people do whatever they want, where we draw the line in different areas comes down to what we value as a society.
You seem to value ownership above all else. Never mind the extremely damaging externalities, in your point of view.
If you own a house, and you’re not living in it, and you’re not renting it out, especially if you own more than 2 (I think holiday houses aren’t some sacred thing people NEED, but fine, have A holiday house), then sorry, yes, you should be forced to sell or rent it out. Thinking it’s okay to just keep it empty as your personal choice, is anti-social behaviour, and we as a society can choose to disallow it like we do with many other anti-social behaviours.
It’s not jealously, it’s empathy for your fellow human beings who need somewhere affordable to live. We as a society do get to decide when someone’s behaviour is unacceptable. Unless you’re not a fan of democracy?
We balance freedoms for the individual with what’s best for the collective. Both extremes of hyper-individualism (what you seem to think “FreedomAdvocacy” means) or no personal rights whatsoever are dumb. There’s a debate to be had about where exactly we should fall for any given topic, but the extremes seem a terrible way to run society.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
You need to get an adult to explain your houses per 1000 people graph to you lol
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 1 week ago
I hate to pull the insulting card, but you started it:
Bro.
What don’t you understand about 420 dwellings per 1000 inhabitants being higher than 377 dwellings per 1000 inhabitants?
Did you fail year 6 maths?
What are you not understanding here? Where do you get off implying I can’t read graphs when clearly you don’t seem to understand the concept. (Or just refusing to acknowledge it?)
More likely, you’re just too stubborn to admit that your pre-decided “reason” for the housing crisis is bullshit, and you’re just spouting numbers without actually bothering to look up the source. You just feel it’s those pesky foreigners.
I really hope it’s not that you innumerate. Would be a scathing indictment of our education system
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 week ago
Do you think that if inflation drops from 3% to 2% that things got cheaper?
We’re still bringing in significantly more people than we’re building houses to support. Building 400 houses when you brought in 1000 isn’t enough lol.
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 1 week ago
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No wonder they’re able to lie to you. You haven’t understood the graph.
No, this is not the same concept. Inflation is increase in prices over a set period. (Typically given per year). It’s a rate of change. I’ll try spell out for you what the graph I linked to means, but it’s not showing rate of change per time. It’s showing a ratio of current houses, to current population for each given year.
This is total housing per person at the given year. NOT the rate of change.
Let’s take the reciprocal fractions, maybe you’ll get it then…
In 1990 there were ~2.65 people dwelling (1000/377). In 2022 there we only ~2.38 people per dwelling (1000/420). At that date, not rate of change like you’re imagining.
I’m really hoping you understand now, that per person there are MORE houses than there were 30 years ago, but this hasn’t caused the price of housing to drop because this hasn’t translated into more available houses (because of aforementioned hoarding) and because of commodification of housing.
After this I’m gonna give up, and be sad that people didn’t pay attention in maths because they “weren’t going to use it” ☹️