Comment on Easy-to-use solar panels are coming, but utilities are trying to delay them

• HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  ok I have to believe the guy replying is a shil at this point. Use of approved products is as old as the electric stystem. Its why the electric company does not have to come and inspect everything you have plugged into the grid and does not come out every time you get a new appliance. The standards are with the product as you correctly point out and the state does not allow on compliant products to be sold just like with refrigerators.

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  • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I have to believe the guy replying is a shil at this point

    A shill for what, exactly? Linemen safety? The horror.

    Its why the electric company…does not come out every time you get a new appliance.

    That’s because your appliances aren’t backfeeding to the grid. Anything that does requires inspections and permits.

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    • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      but the edge case you give has nothing to do with feeding back to the grid given it was already pointed out they auto shut off which regulated by whats allowed to be sold because anyone could put a non legal thing that feeds energy into the grid even if they jury rigged it themself.

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      • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        it was already pointed out they auto shut off

        And I already pointed out that that’s not a given.

        which regulated by whats allowed to be sold

        And I already pointed out that that’s not correct. In fact most equipment that’s sold does not do that.

        anyone could put a non legal thing that feeds energy into the grid even if they jury rigged it themself.

        Yes, people can do all kinds of things that are illegal. That doesn’t mean we stop making them illegal.

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I am not asking how the technology works. I am asking how the utility verifies that people are using compliant products.

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  • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The same way they do now.

    You realize generators exist right?

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So they don’t, is what you’re saying?

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      • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        yup and if you install it wrong it’s you in trouble but you still can buy them and diy without a permit. They should just be regulated so only the certified ones can be sold.

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      • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I can go to the store today and get a generator and plug it right into my house and backfeed.

        I know this is idiodic so I don’t do it.

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  • WesternInfidels@feddit.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “The utility” has never had a way to prevent you from doing something dangerous with your wiring or with the electricity they send you. The best we’ve managed has been to encourage appliance manufacturers to design their products with safety in mind, through the UL program (which is voluntary). This is why the writer talked to the “vice president of engineering at UL Solutions.”

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      “The utility” has never had a way to prevent you from doing something dangerous with your wiring

      Yes they have. It’s called permitting.

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      • Cavemanfreak@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        And what’s stopping you from doing it anyway?

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