Israeli population doesn’t give a shite about the atrocities they are committing, some do, but they are such a minority.
it will collapse the moment the US stops funding it. And if the dems want to win ever again they must. given that recently the polls show that more Americans support Palestine instead of Israel.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Propaganda is unfortunately very effective, and the majority of the Israeli population, similar to the ‘murica population, similar to the population of Putinland, and many others in the world, has taken the bait of hate hook, line and sinker. That doesn’t mean the average Israeli was born more or less evil than you or me. Which means every new generation has a chance of being better than their parents’ generation.
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Being propagandized do not gives you a pass
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Israeli population is without a doubt evil, they keep voting for genocide and apartheid. Not doing a genocide is a fringe idea there. you can blame generations of propaganda, but you can’t use that to absolve them for the horrors they created.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I have a problem with the use of the word “evil”, and even when I do it myself, I am aware it is only a crutch to describe people with what I consider to be brain (developmental) damage to the point of narcissism and having no empathy.
But as I said, propaganda is strong. Calling the Israeli population evil is misunderstanding the problem and is accordingly not helpful at all in finding a solution (which I do not have either). That said, yes, it is shocking what evil acts are okay with people in Israel, but there are hundreds of millions of people in other parts of the world who also find such atrocities acceptable. And in my own country of origin, Germany, we definitely have our own share of people who do not give a fuck about the Palestinians and shrug off the ongoing genocide as “self defense”.
What is happening is horrible, but dehumanizing Israelis is NOT a solution - but it’s a really dangerous path towards keeping a blood feud alive.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I’m talking from lived experience, I am Israeli, I lived there, have family there. And they are incredibly racist people. you can blame generations of propaganda, but the reality that they are extremely hateful towards arabs.
the first joke my roommate told me at work “what do you call an arab drawning in the sea? pollution, how do you call 9 million (Palestinian population at the time) arabs drawning in the sea? Solution”.
Yes, I met some who hated it, and wanted peace and equality with arabs (still wouldn’t call them Palestinians), but they are a tiny minority.
they keep voting for this genocide, they celebrate it. they go to places to see the bombs falling as if it where a fire works show. they made a fuzz about the right of prison guards to rape Palestinians, turning the guard who raped Palestinian prisoners into a national hero.
whatever the reason (you can bring up the Standford prison experiment) they are evil, and if you want to disagree, you can’t disagree that they act evil. they see their neighbors and not see them as human. If we wait for their consent to end the genocide, it’ll never end.