I think this rule a massive improvement, but I also think it’s very restrictive. Women can only choose to avoid all men, rather than just the creeps. So female drivers who need more passengers might feel forced to accept all men, and female passengers who can’t find a ride, might be forced to accept a ride from any male driver. Which might still be a creep.
I think it’s better to weed out the creeps. I think that’s ultimately better for everybody. Make it harder for creeps to get a ride or passenger, instead of making it harder for women.
Women riders are already forced to accept a ride from any male or female driver.
How do women riders label male drivers as creeps? After they sexually assault or harass them? That’s what my question to you was - how does putting the onus on individual women riders to report creeps after they’ve done something creepy help those riders?
That’s exactly what I’m saying: more options to be safer.
Choosing between no men or all men is certainly better than having no choice at all, but being able to filter out just the creeps would be even better.
And yes, that does mean you need to detect who the creeps are, but sexual harassment is already happening, and it would be good to use that information to stop it from happening.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
How else do you think women would be identifying creeps in your scenario?
mcv@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think this rule a massive improvement, but I also think it’s very restrictive. Women can only choose to avoid all men, rather than just the creeps. So female drivers who need more passengers might feel forced to accept all men, and female passengers who can’t find a ride, might be forced to accept a ride from any male driver. Which might still be a creep.
I think it’s better to weed out the creeps. I think that’s ultimately better for everybody. Make it harder for creeps to get a ride or passenger, instead of making it harder for women.
Maybe both should be an option.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Women riders are already forced to accept a ride from any male or female driver.
How do women riders label male drivers as creeps? After they sexually assault or harass them? That’s what my question to you was - how does putting the onus on individual women riders to report creeps after they’ve done something creepy help those riders?
mcv@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
That’s exactly what I’m saying: more options to be safer.
Choosing between no men or all men is certainly better than having no choice at all, but being able to filter out just the creeps would be even better.
And yes, that does mean you need to detect who the creeps are, but sexual harassment is already happening, and it would be good to use that information to stop it from happening.