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I think it would be reasonable if this was a problem of small indie titles that do not have a publisher and basically wouldn’t exist without Steam. If Valve allows for content on their platform they have an obligation to ensure this content is legal. If a supermarket cooperates with a local farmer to sell their produce directly without middle men, it’s partly their responsible if the produce is made using illegal pesticides.

However, it seems unreasonable when it’s about stuff like Forza and FIFA. Then sue Microsoft and EA, for fucks sake. These games have publishers.

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ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

If a supermarket cooperates with a local farmer to sell their produce directly without middle men, it’s partly their responsible if the produce is made using illegal pesticides.

No that’s of how it works…well, anywhere. In your analogy, the supermarket relies on the supplier being truthful with their documentation for their production. That’s as far as their responsibility goes legally, they have no obligation to investigate the suppliers claims any further.

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- cabbage@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  relies on the supplier being truthful with their documentation for their production
  
  So the supermarket needs documentation and to take precautions, because they are to a certain extent responsible for the legality of the stuff they are selling.
  
  In the real world supermarkets don’t just pick up carrots from some random guy showing up with a trailer full of them. In online markets, this is closer to how it works. Those running and profiting off online platforms should be accountable for what they sell. If Amazon lists electrical products that don’t meet fire safety standards on their website they should be held accountable for selling these products, even if they only act as middle men.
  
  If companies can just take the money without any responsibility we’re fucked.
  
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  - ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The seller is only responsible for checking that the product is legal, not whether or not the information and documentation provided by the manufacturer is falsified. In this case, if a game dev accepts that they of course have all the necessary licenseses for game assets (which valve definitely has a clause with), then valve has done their part. If it turns out the manufacturer mislead them, it’s the manufacturer who’s in trouble, not the seller.
    
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    ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yep. They absolutely have such clauses.
    
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qaeta@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That’s the point though, the content IS legal. The game devs paid for the licence. PRS are trying to double dip saying you need a separate licence to distribute it too.

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