Comment on New York Bill Would Force Age ID Checks at the Device Level

Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• just2look@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How are you verifying the age at the device level? Unless it allows you just say your age, then it will require sending personal information to some ‘verifying authority’. Every age verification push is just an expansion of the surveillance state.

  Anything the state does to ‘protect kids’ is bullshit until they ensure every child has food, medical care, proper education, housing, etc.

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  • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m not advocating. I’m asking a question. Not making a statement.

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    • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Does it not send off alarm bells seeing meta stated as one of the lobbyists? Do they really have a track record that makes you think device would be any better?

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    • just2look@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh, I wasn’t trying to be argumentative. I was just trying to answer that at the fundamental level there has to be someone trusted to verify your info, so the data can’t just stay on your device. Unless they just trust the user to state their own age which would defeat the purpose of the law.

      The rest was mostly just because I’m so sick of the bullshit and I didn’t feel like making a separate comment in addition to replying to you. Sorry if I came off as hostile to you.

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      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I was just trying to answer that at the fundamental level there has to be someone trusted to verify your info

        Why?

        Why does there need to be age verification at all?

        We’ve had computera since the 1940s, and never needed this. We’ve had the internet since the 1990s and never needed this.

        Now that a pedophile is in the white house, and an entire network of pedophile politicians have been revealed, NOW they want to protect the children???

        And you honestly believe that?

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      • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ok, so again I’m not very smart on this subject. Could we not make a universal id system that locally authenticates and only sends a confirmation to say, Facebook or pornhub?

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    • ooterness@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      JAQing off

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      • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ok👍

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  • andybytes@programming.dev ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    yes yes yes hammer on the head

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• fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why do we need it at all?

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  • KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Won’t somebody please, think of the children

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    • OrgunDonor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think we have had enough of the rich thinking about children

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  • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t know, why?

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    • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We shouldn’t

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      • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Oh, good to know👍

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• WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The device still syncs with the cloud for the first verification at minimum so the data is out there anyway.

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• OnASnowyEvening@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Look at it from the other direction: Why do most large software vendors now require “The Cloud” for licensing instead of it being on the Device?

  So, if the Local can inevitably be tampered with or bypassed (just like other parental controls which they apparently think aren’t sufficient) what really is the point? Children’s safety isn’t improving. Who’s benefiting?

  Not that “The Cloud” is safer or in any way better. Just trading liability, culpability, and making enforcement more difficult to bypass. “Oops, lost your data, we’re really [not] sorry. Here’s $2, get yourself something nice. No, no, you still have to give us your data and pray it doesn’t happen again. We promise it won’t. Maybe.”

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• andybytes@programming.dev ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  no this creates serious privacy concerns. The people solving the problem are the ones causing the problem. They want to control you and crush free speech. Just stay in the saddle lean in and learn more. This will destroy anything left that is good about technology.

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