Comment on Lead Lemmy developer dessalines@lemmy.ml Appears to Have Had Their Account Compromised After Moderation Actions Raise Serious Concerns

masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• scytale@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It would be nice to use a decentralized Reddit like platform not coded by him, but no one else has the time, resources, ability, and/or dedication, to step up.

  You literally mentioned piefed in your next sentence.

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  • Zangoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tbf Piefed also does have opinionated moderation literally hardcoded into the source code.

    It’s pretty easy to modify since it’s python and not rust, but still not great

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    • admin@scrapetacular.ydns.eu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In b4 discussion of what constitutes hardcoding

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    • fizzle@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok what opinionated moderation?

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      • Zangoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There were a few, not exaustive since it’s been a few months since I looked through the source code, some of this might have changed and there’s also a few other checks that I’m forgetting:

        • 4chan screenshots (specifically anything that OCR identified as having “Anonymous #(number)” in it) were banned. Honestly this one is fine as a toggle but I think for a while it was just on by default in the code
        • any community that had specific words in it were blocked at instance level. I think “meme” was there, a few swear words, and a few carryover reddit meme community names (196, I think nottheonion was also there, anything with “shitpost” in the name, etc.)
        • There’s a hidden karma/social credit score based on a user’s interactions and net total karma hidden from them that gets impacted by any moderation actions, including some of the automated hardcoded ones (e.g. even trying to upload an image that gets flagged by the hardcoded checks)
        • users with a low enough net score get shadow-banned without being informed

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      • Eldritch@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There are some disabled by default, filters built into piefed. That the main Dev uses on their instance. It’s not really even remotely the same thing or as controversial. But it’s the closest thing piefed has and gets brought up regularly because of it.

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  • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Piefed is known to incorporate CCP-style shadow profile and similar measures, such as “Social Credit”, so it’d be hilarious to complain about l.ml’s alignment to then migrate to piefed of all places.

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    • AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      no matter how many times you illusionary truth effect this, piefed users won’t be getting mortgages on using antislop abuse.

      Why lemmy & dessalines depend on slop is beyond the topic of this crywolf 🧵 ╮(︶▽︶)╭

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• Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It would be nice to use a decentralized Reddit like platform not coded by him, but no one else has the time, resources, ability, and/or dedication, to step up.

  piefed, the Canadian instance runners

  PieFed and Mbin don’t share any code with Lemmy at all, they’re in totally different programming languages

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• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Piefed isn’t the canadian instance runners, you’re thinking of fedecan

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• toad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  My hometown have a few tower, but the most infamous is made in that ugly cheap brutalist style and is generally recognized as being an eyesore.

  But one day i was invited to somebody who lived in the tower. And I was blown away, but I realized that the main advantage of living in the tower was that when you’re in it, you don’t see the tower.

  My point is that on the so-called tankie instance, at least they’re not constantly whining about tankies.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Neither are they on the instances that defederate from them.

    It’s also not like it’s an ideological thing. The instances that get defederate from are just filled with obnoxious tankies.

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