Comment on Gen Z males twice as likely as baby boomers to believe wives should obey husbands
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 days agoif you read feminist literature, a lot of it vilifies itself and is little more than hating on men and trying to control women by dictating to them how to behave to be a ‘good feminist’.
there are also many feminist movements that just hate men, or hate trans women, or hate pregnancy, etc.
atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Could you specify one feminist text that you’d say is a good example of this hating on men and controlling women? This description doesn’t match what I’ve read but I’m interested to see if there’s a side of feminist thinking I’m not familiar with.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Andrea Dworkin
atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Hmm have you actually read anything by her? Her conclusions are unpleasant but her reasoning is rock fucking solid. I highly recommend watching This clip of a panel interview she takes part in to get a sense of her argumentation style. She feels completely honest and to me she seems disturbed and upset by the trends she has seen. And you can watch another male writer mean mug her the entire time, it’s honestly kind of hilarious how visibly pissed off he is. If you watch the entire interview you get to hear their exchanges too, fun to watch if you’ve got some time to kill. I thought she came across very well in an extremely hostile room, even if I think she’s ultimately missing some human element in her analysis.
Anyway, not the example I was hoping for, I think she’s a popular punching bag that is actually far more nuanced and interesting than people give her credit for, often because they haven’t actually interacted with any of her work.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yes. I studied in in college. There is more to an argument that solid reasoning.
The Nazi regime had solid solid reasoning too dude. Their conclusions were also ‘unpleasant’.