I think maybe the terms used are different, but if the bar is a business owned by a private person or company, and is allowed to say who can be in there or not, set dress code, hours, rules about outside food etc, that’s what would be considered a place of business in the US, and those aren’t publicly-owned or considered a public space as far as the rights of those people in that space. I get that “pub” literally means “public” but they aren’t owned by some government entity, you don’t have a “right” to free access to them, and the rules about what can and can’t take place there are set by the private owners.
A bar, where the public congregates, sounds like a public place (and would be considered so in my country).
khepri@lemmy.world 1 year ago
ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Which country exactly?
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A bar is privately-owned. How is it a public place?
meco03211@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s “public”. But that would be the same as filming you in your own house. If it’s a friend you invited over, they could record you and it’s on you to indicate your opposition and kick them out/trespass them should they refuse to comply.
Now in the private bar, the other patrons are allowed to be there and there’s no law prohibiting them from recording (excepting places like a bathroom of course). If the bar tells them not to record, they can comply or be asked to leave. If three bar doesn’t tell them to leave, it’s on you to leave. Consider if a nazi walked into the bar. They have the right to be a nazi and go to bars. Bars have the right to refuse or provide service to whomever (so long as it doesn’t target a protected class). You have no more right to be at the bar than the nazi or person filming (absent some other condition like the bar along them to leave).
Tl:Dr - it’s not public in the legal sense. However civil law takes over.
ilmagico@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I guess you’re speaking for the USA, ornwhatever country you live in, but @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world seemed to speak about a different (unspecified) country. We’re left to guess which country…
(also, Godwin’s law still applies lol)
meco03211@lemmy.world 1 year ago
US. Yes. I can’t speak for other countries.