Comment on Motorola confirms GrapheneOS support for a future phone, bringing over features

qualia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• darkmogool@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  matured to the point that we don’t need to rely on for-profit monoliths any more

  Which phones are we using for Graphene OS at the moment? Ah, yeah… Google… well known for its non-profit behaviour… I say: Give me alternatives which we aren’t to try to get rid of in the first place.

  source

  • qualia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    See: PinePhone (Ubuntu Touch, postmarketOS) for $149-199 via their intl site: pine64.org.

    OR

    SF’s Librem 5 (PureOS, plus Ubuntu Touch, postmarketOS) for ~$700 via puri.sm.

    Both shippable to the US. They’re unpolished OSs and expect delays, but they do exist. The competition will only increase going forward.

    source

    • darkmogool@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Both are alternatives, but not fleshed out as far I know. There is also e/OS, but it’s the same story. So we actually don’t have a viable solution

      Also: Why is “shippable to the US” a criterion for FOSS or the rest of the world? You know, there are other Countries on this blue Marble…

      source

      • qualia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        We’re speaking English and the US is by far the largest demographic for English speakers on BlueSky. The UK is the second closest and represents 5-6x less people. I genuinely wish you luck with how you engage with people in the future.

        source
• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  How would Motorola lock it down? They don’t control it in any way.

  source

  • qualia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Oh snap, I misread it as Motorola bought GrapheneOS! This is way better news than I realized! Thx for the clarification. 🫡

    Edit: On reflection can FOSS even be bought since it doesn’t have an owner to pay? I’m caught up now.

    source

    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      On reflection can FOSS even be bought

      Yes, you can pay developers to stop publishing new changes. Basically hire the people developing it and stop releasing the code. Community can try to still develop it independently.

      source

      • qualia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        At the limit though they’d have to pay every coder with an interest in that software’s development and enough time for a hobby. I guess they could target distribution like Codeberg but alternatives would eventually fill their place.

        source

        • -> View More Comments
  • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    GrapheneOS is open source, Motorola - just like anyone else - can make changes to it before they install it on their devices.

    source

    • qualia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Like a locked bootloader and bloat.

      source
    • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      That’s not what “lock it down” means.

      source

      • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        What does it mean to you?

        source

        • -> View More Comments
      • qualia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Different tense, I’m not using it in the privacy hardened sense.

        source