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Nah, new star trek doesn’t feel classic enough because it’s too netflixed out. Meaning it doesn’t fit comfortable aesthetics, doesn’t feel self-contained (stand alone episodes). Doesn’t feel in-world, and isn’t set in a likeable section of time in Star Trek lore.

Most people who don’t like New Star Trek want a TNG, VOY, or DS9 era timeline, featuring a strong actress or actor as the Captain, that’s episodic in nature, and operates as a philosophical defense/testing/statement about the best parts of western progressive/liberal democracy using sci fi as a metaphor or container.

Star Trek isn’t a place for dark gritty season long arcs that feel like movies that aren’t going anywhere. No, we want philosophical premises, in well let carpeted spaces, about interesting technology, aliens, and psychology… That years later we realise were subtle commentaries (or even hopeful suggestions) about real world problems.

Lower Decks is currently the vest fit for this.

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Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Strange New Worlds is great for all of those reasons too. It’s so much better than Picard or Discovery.

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- DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I’m not really into TOS related stuff.
  
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hesh@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Me, I want that

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sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
DS9 had the arcs, darkness, and grit, and as such was not as liked at first, at least so I’ve heard. So maybe it will just take time for lower decks to be accepted.

I tried to like Discovery but it just seemed kind of wacky? Idk, I just vibed better with Star Trek Into Darkness

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- DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  DS9 was bright and clearly shot compared to modern DISCO, and DS9 had an in-world explanation (being on a Cardassian space station).
  
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  - sem@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I like how they also implied that the space station was always really hot also since that’s what Cardassians liked, if I remember correctly.
    
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otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
The Federation rents carpeted spaces? I assume they’re inner spaces, not outer, per se? That does make sense of certain episodes in the early years, the carpeting underlining the “shag where no man has shagged before” thing. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Corgana@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I agree but that has nothing to do with the “Nu” pejorative assigned to Kelvinverse films.

The reactionary racists and trolls started using it to apply to the Black Lady show and pretended that crying a lot is somehow the same thing as Captain Kirk riding a motorcycle through a flaming ring.

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Corgana@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
no this is patrick

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- DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Stewart.
  
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