Comment on Dark patterns killed my wife’s Windows 11 installation – OSnews
Burninator05@lemmy.world 2 days agoYes, all of that happened but it happened because Samsung uploaded the photos without clear authorization and Microsoft downloaded all of the files without authorization after One Drive was automatically reinstalled after the user deliberately removed it.
27Purple@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The thing is you do get the choice to sync the account, it’s not automagic, so the writer saying “she didn’t authorize it” is actually false. Generalizing here but most non-tech literate people generally sort to just pressing “next next yes” on everything so it’s not unlikely she’s simply authorized it without actually realizing it. Same with Onedrive sync, it’s not automatic, you get the option but it’s very simple to opt out during OOBE or when prompted in Windows, but most people simply look at it and say “that sounds neat”.
That said the OOBE on new Samsungs is absolutely atrocious and I don’t blame her for ending up in this situation. It’s like a 20 step process on the S25 (I have one so I know what it’s like) and I’m definitely not defending the clusterfuck that Windows is. I feel for both of them. I’m just saying there are some inaccuracies.
Dewege@feddit.org 1 day ago
Thats exactly what dark paterns are: asking „do you want to backup your files?“, instead of transparently asking if you want to „MOVE your files to OneDrive“. Then not providing clear „Yes“ and „No“ buttons. But showing a convenient „Continue“ (or similar) and a scary worded „dont backup“ (or similar). And there are so many times where I deliberately uninstalled Onedrive, Outlook(new) and others, only to find them back in the menu an hour later. Also hate these f**ing questions, where you have the big blue „Yes“ button and only a „ask me later“ to deny. Or you have to find some blue words in the explaining text to click on, like when starting MS-Office on a local account the first time: Big „Login everywhere with MS-Account“ button, and „only MS-Apps“ just in the fine print (not even a way to say „only use MS-Account in Office“)
IronKrill@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I just reinstalled Windows this week, saying no to everything, and I swear they did not ask me about OneDrive like before. My folders were set up as OneDrive with no opt out.